Three longbeards were crossing the road together the other day. Does that mean they haven't started fighting for pecking order yet?
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I think they fight for pecking order all the time. They are just still in the fall flock mode and should break out of that soon.
Quote from: g8rvet on February 16, 2023, 12:41:06 PM
I think they fight for pecking order all the time. They are just still in the fall flock mode and should break out of that soon.
Makes sense... thanks for the response.
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Quote from: ETXhunter93 on February 16, 2023, 11:53:43 AM
Three longbeards were crossing the road together the other day. Does that mean they haven't started fighting for pecking order yet?
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No, it just means they were trying to get to the other side
Quote from: ETXhunter93 on February 16, 2023, 11:53:43 AM
Three longbeards were crossing the road together the other day. Does that mean they haven't started fighting for pecking order yet?
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Not at all, these are more than likely brood mates (brothers) who have just stayed together, they will work together to achieve the same goal. There is a definite pecking order to them, and there are keyways in determining this. There are many ques to learning the pecking order, I always target the Alpha and at times when I have 2 tags in the pocket or hunting with another, we are able to double up on birds and have done this a lot. Learning the biology of these birds is one more step in that road to success, some will never take that time or learn what to look for, and some seasoned hunters will know what they are looking for. This is a big part of why I designed/developed my White-Headed Strutter and part of the Dominance Game. Differences in Head Color, Body Position, Snood and more...
Here's a picture of the Alpha/Beta/Omega(s)
MK M GOBL
Quote from: crow on February 16, 2023, 04:25:05 PM
Quote from: ETXhunter93 on February 16, 2023, 11:53:43 AM
Three longbeards were crossing the road together the other day. Does that mean they haven't started fighting for pecking order yet?
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No, it just means they were trying to get to the other side
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Quote from: MK M GOBL on February 16, 2023, 04:48:48 PM
Quote from: ETXhunter93 on February 16, 2023, 11:53:43 AM
Three longbeards were crossing the road together the other day. Does that mean they haven't started fighting for pecking order yet?
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Not at all, these are more than likely brood mates (brothers) who have just stayed together, they will work together to achieve the same goal. There is a definite pecking order to them, and there are keyways in determining this. There are many ques to learning the pecking order, I always target the Alpha and at times when I have 2 tags in the pocket or hunting with another, we are able to double up on birds and have done this a lot. Learning the biology of these birds is one more step in that road to success, some will never take that time or learn what to look for, and some seasoned hunters will know what they are looking for. This is a big part of why I designed/developed my White-Headed Strutter and part of the Dominance Game. Differences in Head Color, Body Position, Snood and more...
Here's a picture of the Alpha/Beta/Omega(s)
MK M GOBL
Good info. Thanks!
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Pecking orders are 24/7 same with a boss hen ...
It's really neat to watch them sort out a pecking order. Last fall while bow hunting for deer two separate flocks came together. One had a tom and five hens; the other had three toms and 7 hens so sixteen total. Well...a real donnybrook came about. Hens with hens, toms with toms. It lasted for a couple days but they finally got it sorted out. Watching them for days afterwards all was serene...a contented flock of sixteen. But once a pecking order is established that doesn't mean it isn't challenged. At any time of the year and at any point in time a hen or gobbler can and may challenge their status.
Quote from: Turkeyman on March 01, 2023, 10:03:02 AM
But once a pecking order is established that doesn't mean it isn't challenged. At any time of the year and at any point in time a hen or gobbler can and may challenge their status.
Agreed with one exception. I'd change "may challenge" to "will challenge."
The hen chooses which gobbler to mate with, and he is not necessarily the dominant gobbler.
Quote from: silvestris on March 05, 2023, 09:39:06 PM
The hen chooses which gobbler to mate with, and he is not necessarily the dominant gobbler.
A hen will/can mate with several different toms and each can fertilizer some of her eggs, she does to ensure that at least a portion of her eggs will hatch. We have had jakes breed jennys that were not mature enough to be "potent" and eggs would not hatch.
MK M GOBL
Saw that yesterday at my brothers camp 2 longbeards and 3 jakes wow those jakes were giving the longbeards some grief for sure then like a light switch being turned on the 2 longbeards started giving the jakes the same treatment the 2 longbeards walked up the hill and were in strut. Watched all of this while having a cup of joe in the mornin. :firefighter:
This is a fun time of year to be watching the social interaction
I watch turkeys alot .... and have a tame 1 at the house .... they argue all year long .... but there is a pecking order