Shot the #6's last year and was getting around 220 per 10". Killed a bird at 15 yards. I wanted to try the #7's this year, so I purchased two boxes. Finally got to shoot them tonight. 196 in a 10 - not bad and will definitely kill a bird, but at that I wish I had more of the 6's.
Shot out of an 835 with a jellyhead.
I know this has been posted over and over and over again, but I am really hoping Heavy is reading the boards to see what people are saying and will change back. With the problems that Heavy had this year, I am hoping another company steps up to the plate for next year.
Sorry to hear that... It'd be great for them to stop messing with things....
its too much to change something every year... Especially when they actually produce worse patterns.
What is the constriction on your JH ?? Did you clean your barrel prior to shooting??
The 7's can get by with a smaller choke. Now with that said we had guy stop by today to test a gun. He miss target 2 times so not get the hole pattern. I think the 6's will shoot VERY good out the big bore gun.
Jellyhead was a 690. Shot at a 3' X 3' sheet of paper. Center of the patters was about 4 inches low and 4 inches to the right compared to the #6's.
Barrel was heavily cleaned and shiny as a mirror. Barrel length is 28 inches. This will be the last year for me with Hevi-13. Why they would change a good thing is beyond me.
Drop it to a 675. Sumtoy customs,PG,StarDot or IC put good numbers.
My Jh is a .660, Thinking you should drop a few sizes.
Folks say that choke works but I can not say yes or no. I will say in the 835/935 I think it is to small.
About 270 shot is probably in my experience about the most your going to get out that .690 Jelly Head choke and good Hevi-13 3.5" 2.25oz #7 loads. You need around a .670 or .675 and maybe .680. More than likely the first 2 will put up the bigger numbers with the 7's and the .680 will do better with the 6's. Try finding a Star Dot or just buy a Pure Gold .670. Both those chokes will sing with the Hevi-13 3.5" #7 loads. I know that for a fact. You will be very, very hard pressed to find a choke that will shoot these loads better.
I'll add I had a Indian Creek .675 BDS and I traded it for a .670 Pure Gold. The Pure Gold will most definately put up bigger numbers with these loads. The Indian Creek is still a good choke giving around 300 shot in the 10 out of my 28" barrel.
Fullfan - you must be shooting out of a Remington for a .660. They don't make a 660 for a Mossberg. they only thing I can find is 690 jellyhead.
Anyways, last year people were getting well over 300 with the 690 jellyhead out of the mossberg. I have a MAD that is a .680 that I am going to try on the next nice day the only thing is it is stamped lead only - I am still going to try it and see what it does.
The pattern I shot will kill any bird I shoot at, it is just the point of things. Next year I will be loading TSS.
Quote from: Skeeter41 on April 16, 2011, 01:24:22 PM
Fullfan - you must be shooting out of a Remington for a .660. They don't make a 660 for a Mossberg. they only thing I can find is 690 jellyhead.
Anyways, last year people were getting well over 300 with the 690 jellyhead out of the mossberg. I have a MAD that is a .680 that I am going to try on the next nice day the only thing is it is stamped lead only - I am still going to try it and see what it does.
The pattern I shot will kill any bird I shoot at, it is just the point of things. Next year I will be loading TSS.
I would have to be standing there to believe 300 @ 40 out of the .690 Jellyhead and any lot # Hevi 7's.
Quote from: goblr77 on April 16, 2011, 01:54:42 PM
Quote from: Skeeter41 on April 16, 2011, 01:24:22 PM
Fullfan - you must be shooting out of a Remington for a .660. They don't make a 660 for a Mossberg. they only thing I can find is 690 jellyhead.
Anyways, last year people were getting well over 300 with the 690 jellyhead out of the mossberg. I have a MAD that is a .680 that I am going to try on the next nice day the only thing is it is stamped lead only - I am still going to try it and see what it does.
The pattern I shot will kill any bird I shoot at, it is just the point of things. Next year I will be loading TSS.
I would have to be standing there to believe 300 @ 40 out of the .690 Jellyhead and any lot # Hevi 7's.
Me too! It in my opinion is just too open. It throws a nice killing turkey pattern no doubt about it and really is all the choke you should ever need. I had one and got rid of it. I now have another one. Maybe on a 90 degree day it might get close to the 300 mark. But I wouldn't hold my breath.
I am possitive I was reading last year people were getting close to and over 300, maybe it was my imagination. The 20 inch pattern was tremendous. I will shoot the .680 tomorrow and see what it does.
What's the lot number on the 7s?
You Probably got a bad lot number
I feel you should be over 300 with the .690
I saw my friend put over 250 with the #6s with that choke
Shooting this years Hevi 13 3.25/ 2.25/ 7's and 3/2/7's. Getting the high numbers that you hear about. The chokes i am shooting are all .665 and .670. Hastings .665 and Pure Gold .670 and Hevi Choke .671. Not so sure you can get those kind of numbers out of a choke that open. .680 and .690 are the diameter that can be achieved with a flush mounted choke. I would tighten the diameter of the choke. That could be the issue along with other factors rather than the quality of the Hevi 13.
last years #6's i was getting 220, this year 196 with 7's. Both out of the same choke. Lot number is 300487.
XXX4XX That 4 in the lot # seems to be the bad ones.
Quote from: Tom Foolery on April 16, 2011, 05:42:02 PM
XXX4XX That 4 in the lot # seems to be the bad ones.
That's the problem not the choke
Getting less numbers than 6's..there definately is something wrong. Maybe try another box of Hevi 13. Stuff gets expensive when it comes to buying disposable boxes of Hevi-13..i would go back to shooting 6's and call it a day. 220 with 6's is business for killing turkeys..
if I was getting 220 with #6's,I wouldn't be studying any #7
Quote from: surehuntsalot on April 18, 2011, 09:12:49 PM
if I was getting 2220 with #6's,I wouldn't be studying any #7
2220 TYPO TYPO but I agree with you . I guess it will have to be 400 next year . LOL.
Im getting 290 in a 10 at 40 with this years lot number out of a Mossberg 935 shooting the hevi-13 #7 shot in 3 1/2 inch. This is my first year shooting the hevi-13 loads, so i cant compare to last years lot numbers, but i am more then pleased with the results compared to my lead loads. I would try a Indian creek .675 choke (thats what i use), or a pure gold .670 choke, here they work real well in the 835's. Im sure one of these will up your numbers alot.
Did some more shooting today. OK results but still not up to last years number 6's and unfortunately I only have one of those left.
835 with Mad Max .680 = 196 same as the Jellyhead .690, but the 20" pattern wasn't near as good as it was with the JH.
935 with Mad Max .680 = 212. 20" patter was nice.
I am going to put the JH in the 835 and the MM in the 935 and flip a coin to see which one gets taken out the first day.
I am not upset with any of the patterns, as they will kill any turkey I plan on shooting at, they just aren't the numbers I was expecting.
Quote from: Skeeter41 on April 20, 2011, 04:13:06 PM
Did some more shooting today. OK results but still not up to last years number 6's and unfortunately I only have one of those left.
835 with Mad Max .680 = 196 same as the Jellyhead .690, but the 20" pattern wasn't near as good as it was with the JH.
935 with Mad Max .680 = 212. 20" patter was nice.
I am going to put the JH in the 835 and the MM in the 935 and flip a coin to see which one gets taken out the first day.
I am not upset with any of the patterns, as they will kill any turkey I plan on shooting at, they just aren't the numbers I was expecting.
x2 but I am upset