I think it is made with a mouth call. Not a cluck but maybe a variation of a cluck. I have not heard a turkey make it but I haven't been around a lot of turkeys in their natural setting. I have not been able to duplicate it.
Any thoughts?
Quote from: Brillo on January 02, 2023, 10:18:24 PM
I think it is made with a mouth call. Not a cluck but maybe a variation of a cluck. I have not heard a turkey make it but I haven't been around a lot of turkeys in their natural setting. I have not been able to duplicate it.
Any thoughts?
Putt?
I don't think it is a putt. I have heard that Dave on the turkey videos do it while he is walking. Uses it like a cover or soft locator.
What you are referring to is what has most recently been named by some imaginative hunter as the "bubble cluck". Others may have a differing opinion as to when you might hear it from a turkey, but in my experience, I have mostly heard it from turkeys that are approaching my calling and reach a point where they think they should be able to see the turkey (me) that is calling to them. Invariably, they will start making that hollow-sounding cluck. (It has been described as what a drop of water sounds like when it falls into another pool of water).
My interpretation,...again, based on my personal experience,...is that the turkey that makes this cluck is looking for a similar response cluck in return. Being able to respond with a similar sound will often make them continue to look for the source. Conversely, a lack of response to a turkey in these situations will, at some point, start to concern the bird,...and it will gradually start showing that concern by clucking more and more excitedly, until it reaches a point where that "where are you?" cluck graduates into "something-ain't-right-here alarm putting".
In my opinion, the best tool for reproducing this sound is a mouth call, but for many hunters in these tight situations where a turkey is close, an accurate reproduction of that cluck is often hard to put forth. There is something about the excitement of a close gobbler, in combination with the associated dry mouth, that always makes me question whether my consoling bubble cluck is going to sound like a... "Mr. gobbler, you better get the heck out of dodge as fast as you can" squawk of some sort. :D
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Along with splashing water and scratching leaves, it is one of the deadliest sounds one can make in the turkey woods.
Pinhoti Dave does it effortlessly.
I just can not do it.
I have spent countless hours trying to make that 'water bubble' cluck.
I will never attempt it in the woods.
I have enough trouble getting birds in front of me...sure do not need to be running them off trying to sound like Dave.
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Quote from: GobbleNut on January 03, 2023, 10:27:45 AM
What you are referring to is what has most recently been named by some imaginative hunter as the "bubble cluck". Others may have a differing opinion as to when you might hear it from a turkey, but in my experience, I have mostly heard it from turkeys that are approaching my calling and reach a point where they think they should be able to see the turkey (me) that is calling to them. Invariably, they will start making that hollow-sounding cluck. (It has been described as what a drop of water sounds like when it falls into another pool of water).
My interpretation,...again, based on my personal experience,...is that the turkey that makes this cluck is looking for a similar response cluck in return. Being able to respond with a similar sound will often make them continue to look for the source. Conversely, a lack of response to a turkey in these situations will, at some point, start to concern the bird,...and it will gradually start showing that concern by clucking more and more excitedly, until it reaches a point where that "where are you?" cluck graduates into "something-ain't-right-here alarm putting".
In my opinion, the best tool for reproducing this sound is a mouth call, but for many hunters in these tight situations where a turkey is close, an accurate reproduction of that cluck is often hard to put forth. There is something about the excitement of a close gobbler, in combination with the associated dry mouth, that always makes me question whether my consoling bubble cluck is going to sound like a... "Mr. gobbler, you better get the heck out of dodge as fast as you can" squawk of some sort. :D
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X2 I've heard this on several occasions when gobblers got close and basically think when a gobbler is doing this he is saying " here I am, where are you"
Dave has it down pat.....he uses it all the time and he kills birds all the time. He is a killing machine and one can listen to him and take it to the bank.
I agree with GobbleNut .... bubble cluck... somewhat a gurgling sound.... If you listen to Zach Farmer on his Youtube videos playing his trumpets he talks about this unusual sound and he does this sound with his trumpet rasp playing ...
Yes GN had a good response here.
I'm no expert and strictly a novice. If you're not that proficient with your mouth call, keep you clucks as soft as possible. Especially if you think he's closed the distance. If he's coming and yer all jacked up you don't want to be sending out that accidental PUT. Keep practicing and good luck.
Quote from: GobbleNut on January 03, 2023, 10:27:45 AM
What you are referring to is what has most recently been named by some imaginative hunter as the "bubble cluck". Others may have a differing opinion as to when you might hear it from a turkey, but in my experience, I have mostly heard it from turkeys that are approaching my calling and reach a point where they think they should be able to see the turkey (me) that is calling to them. Invariably, they will start making that hollow-sounding cluck. (It has been described as what a drop of water sounds like when it falls into another pool of water).
My interpretation,...again, based on my personal experience,...is that the turkey that makes this cluck is looking for a similar response cluck in return. Being able to respond with a similar sound will often make them continue to look for the source. Conversely, a lack of response to a turkey in these situations will, at some point, start to concern the bird,...and it will gradually start showing that concern by clucking more and more excitedly, until it reaches a point where that "where are you?" cluck graduates into "something-ain't-right-here alarm putting".
In my opinion, the best tool for reproducing this sound is a mouth call, but for many hunters in these tight situations where a turkey is close, an accurate reproduction of that cluck is often hard to put forth. There is something about the excitement of a close gobbler, in combination with the associated dry mouth, that always makes me question whether my consoling bubble cluck is going to sound like a... "Mr. gobbler, you better get the heck out of dodge as fast as you can" squawk of some sort. :D
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Good stuff here...
Had a bird do it last week. My impression, is that it is a nervous call. I do not think you have to "bubble-cluck" back though. Any quiet contented turkey sound seems to work (most times) for me if the terrain is broken up enough. I purred and it worked. I have made quiet yelps or clucks for success as well.
No call (including the bubble-cluck) has worked for me if I am in terrain that is too open. If that bird should see a hen that is not there, they get nervous.
If I am in a more open area, and can do it on an approaching bird, I might get behind the tree (instead of in front)... Hoping that I will sound like a hen behind the tree, and get that bird to come a few more inquisitive steps forward.
My wife actually came to nashville with me this year and she was pretty impressed with the calling competition
She looked at me at one point and said he sounds like he is making rain drops. I never heard of it called the bubble cluck but that is exactly it. I can make the call sometimes but am usually to afraid to give it a go when birds are around.
I use a diaphragm often and have difficulty with the bubble cluck. The closest I get to it is the clucking sound of cluck and purr. I've seen people do it effortlessly myself.
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I have tried to find this sound on Youtube but can't seem to find it. I have never heard it.
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 01, 2023, 11:09:57 AM
I have tried to find this sound on Youtube but can't seem to find it. I have never heard it.
It was a popular topic on the forums a season or two ago...
I associate it with a wooded area and decreased visibility. It is a "popping" sound made that (I think) is when a tom should see that hen but does not. I have often heard it evolve into a "putt," when he does not see that hen that should be there.
Birds are usually somewhat close when I hear it... Unfortunately "almost" in range is generally the rule for me.
I can't produce that cluck consistently myself. A little soft purring & leaf scratching helps settle their nerves some. I keep thinking I'll get there one day, but I hasn't happened yet. It has driven my wife to a borderline fit of rage whenever she hears me practice though. There's something about the pitch of a turkey call that affects female DNA in a bad way.
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Had a bird do it last week. My impression, is that it is a nervous call. I do not think you have to "bubble-cluck" back though. Any quiet contented turkey sound seems to work (most times) for me if the terrain is broken up enough. I purred and it worked. I have made quiet yelps or clucks for success as well.
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Yes Marc I agree, many times hens will bubble cluck, purr, bubble cluck, purr and so on. So if you can't bubble cluck, just purr or you can approximate the sequence on a good slate with the right striker or a pushpin too. I see it as more of an inquisitive call more so than a nervous call. But, gobblers and jakes and hens do make hollow sounding bubble putts as they nervously flee from danger, but that sound is somewhat different.
When you using your mouth call and doing a cluck blow a bubble with your lips is how I do it. Practice blowing that bubble without your mouth call until you get it, then put your mouth in and try to do that bubble....slowly it will come to you. Just takes practice, but it will eventually come around.
It's not that hard .....
I have heard this call this season and the way it sounded was as if the tom was starting to be suspicious about my calls... I hunted this area for a few days straight and one morning as i was yelping he was answering at first with gobbles and than he started doing pops... pop, pop, pop... like 15 times straight. It sounded like he wanted to verify if I was a real turkey... I was not confident enough to try to replicate his call but maybe I will try it if some times it happens to me again.
Quote from: YoungGobbler on July 30, 2023, 02:06:49 PM
I have heard this call this season and the way it sounded was as if the tom was starting to be suspicious about my calls... I hunted this area for a few days straight and one morning as i was yelping he was answering at first with gobbles and than he started doing pops... pop, pop, pop... like 15 times straight. It sounded like he wanted to verify if I was a real turkey... I was not confident enough to try to replicate his call but maybe I will try it if some times it happens to me again.
Anybody that has hunted turkeys for very long has had what you describe happen to them. That repeated popping sound you started hearing had probably gone from the "bubble cluck" where-are-you stage to the "alarm putt" stage in your encounter. That gobbler either probably saw something he didn't like...or he did not see something that he thought he ought to be able to see. Regardless, if he started making that sound repeatedly (and moving away from you), there was probably nothing you could do to change his mind at that point. Maybe....but probably not.
The use of the bubble cluck (where-are-you cluck) can work wonders in certain situations, but once a gobbler gets into the alarm putting stage, your chances are generally fading fast. Those repeated sharp putts are sounds that none of us want to hear... :)
Quote from: GobbleNut on July 30, 2023, 04:51:30 PM
Quote from: YoungGobbler on July 30, 2023, 02:06:49 PM
I have heard this call this season and the way it sounded was as if the tom was starting to be suspicious about my calls... I hunted this area for a few days straight and one morning as i was yelping he was answering at first with gobbles and than he started doing pops... pop, pop, pop... like 15 times straight. It sounded like he wanted to verify if I was a real turkey... I was not confident enough to try to replicate his call but maybe I will try it if some times it happens to me again.
Anybody that has hunted turkeys for very long has had what you describe happen to them. That repeated popping sound you started hearing had probably gone from the "bubble cluck" where-are-you stage to the "alarm putt" stage in your encounter. That gobbler either probably saw something he didn't like...or he did not see something that he thought he ought to be able to see. Regardless, if he started making that sound repeatedly (and moving away from you), there was probably nothing you could do to change his mind at that point. Maybe....but probably not.
The use of the bubble cluck (where-are-you cluck) can work wonders in certain situations, but once a gobbler gets into the alarm putting stage, your chances are generally fading fast. Those repeated sharp putts are sounds that none of us want to hear... :)
I started hearing this pop pop and the gobbler was still roosted. Felt like it was also a bit of an alarm call also... And it was late season, had hunted the area a bit.
Quote from: YoungGobbler on July 30, 2023, 04:58:17 PM
I started hearing this pop pop and the gobbler was still roosted. Felt like it was also a bit of an alarm call also... And it was late season, had hunted the area a bit.
Interesting. It does sound like alarm putting, which would make me think the gobbler probably saw or perhaps heard something he got suspicious about. In those cases, turkeys will sometimes stay on the roost longer than anticipated, and/or when they fly down, they will fly away from the source causing their suspicion.
Turkeys do often cluck when getting ready to fly down, and fly-down cackles often include fast clucking. However, what you indicate you heard does not seem to fit that description to me.
In addition, turkeys that have been hunted hard can get to a point where they become suspicious about just about everything that happens around them... :D
Quote from: GobbleNut on July 30, 2023, 05:14:47 PM
Quote from: YoungGobbler on July 30, 2023, 04:58:17 PM
I started hearing this pop pop and the gobbler was still roosted. Felt like it was also a bit of an alarm call also... And it was late season, had hunted the area a bit.
Interesting. It does sound like alarm putting, which would make me think the gobbler probably saw or perhaps heard something he got suspicious about. In those cases, turkeys will sometimes stay on the roost longer than anticipated, and/or when they fly down, they will fly away from the source causing their suspicion.
Turkeys do often cluck when getting ready to fly down, and fly-down cackles often include fast clucking. However, what you indicate you heard does not seem to fit that description to me.
In addition, turkeys that have been hunted hard can get to a point where they become suspicious about just about everything that happens around them... :D
I did had the feeling that it was a mix of an alarm call and a 'are you a real turkey? Cause i'm a real turkey and I'm a bit nervous right now' ;D
He did got off the roost and went away from me... and that was close to last day of the season so I was in a mood where I had nothing to loose... ;) So i went and tryed to get closer to him since i could ear him gobble... And one time I was so close to him... He gobbled frankly, than got silent... and left the area with the soft rain drop sound... And throughout the morning I could ear him rain drop... That was a fun morning...
But your last sentence truly sums it up: He was suspsicious.
Years ago Ray Eye referred to this same call as popping. First time I heard it, I knew immediately what he meant as he had explained gobblers doing it in close proximity. Had 3 gobblers under 30 yards away just over crest of ridge and they all 3 started popping after my last series of calls.
Found this on facebroke on it. Actually sounds like something I have just always done, though not near this well. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=5485810588185620