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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Guns => Topic started by: Neill_Prater on March 30, 2011, 02:43:36 PM

Title: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: Neill_Prater on March 30, 2011, 02:43:36 PM
Now that they have been out a few years, I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience with the Stoeger 2000? I received one as a gift a couple of years ago. Factory choke wasn't all that great, with the shells I had to test with (Winchester HV's, #5, Winchester Xtendeds #5, and Remington Premiers, #5) Picked up an HS Strut Undertaker choke on clearance from Wally World, and it throws a respectable pattern with the Xtendeds, but not as good as my old 11-87. Up to 40 yards, I'm pretty confident, but even though I try to avoid longer shots, I like having that additional 10 yards my Remington affords me, just in case. I really like the gun, especially the weight and pistol grip, but would like to have a little better pattern. I'm hoping someone else has worked up a great combo with this gun, and would be willing to share the results with me. I realize every gun is unique, but wouldn't mind dropping the bucks for a choke tube that is working well for someone else. I just don't like buying something as a guess, and then finding out it doesn't work. Been there, done that.

Anyway, thanks. Neill
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: NWBama on March 30, 2011, 03:11:32 PM
I use PG .670 and Hevi Magnum blend. It is my son's gun. I am happy with the combo. I would use it out to 50yds.
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: reynolds243 on March 30, 2011, 03:21:15 PM
I have used one for 2 years (going on 3 now) and for the first 2 years used a jellyhead with Xtended range #6. Patterned pretty well with that combo.

switched to IC 665 and Hevi #7 this year and was averaging 235 at 40yds.

Shot the mag blends as well as was averaging 200 at 40yds with it.
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: reynolds243 on March 30, 2011, 03:23:03 PM
here is one of the pattern targets....and yes i have fixed the POI issue lol


I would like to see what the PG does though...I was down to that or the IC and went with the IC...the SSX interested me as well.


(http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww207/reynolds243/IMG_1214.jpg)

Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: gatrkyhntr70 on March 30, 2011, 04:30:06 PM
nice pattern!
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: SumToy on March 30, 2011, 06:39:34 PM
675 has gave good numbers and even kill pattern.  Now drop it to around 650 it put big numbers if you in a number war.
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: allaboutshooting on March 30, 2011, 06:58:20 PM
Quote from: Neill_Prater on March 30, 2011, 02:43:36 PM
Now that they have been out a few years, I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience with the Stoeger 2000? I received one as a gift a couple of years ago. Factory choke wasn't all that great, with the shells I had to test with (Winchester HV's, #5, Winchester Xtendeds #5, and Remington Premiers, #5) Picked up an HS Strut Undertaker choke on clearance from Wally World, and it throws a respectable pattern with the Xtendeds, but not as good as my old 11-87. Up to 40 yards, I'm pretty confident, but even though I try to avoid longer shots, I like having that additional 10 yards my Remington affords me, just in case. I really like the gun, especially the weight and pistol grip, but would like to have a little better pattern. I'm hoping someone else has worked up a great combo with this gun, and would be willing to share the results with me. I realize every gun is unique, but wouldn't mind dropping the bucks for a choke tube that is working well for someone else. I just don't like buying something as a guess, and then finding out it doesn't work. Been there, done that.

Anyway, thanks. Neill

Hey Neill,

A number of folks have been very happy with the Hevi-13 chokes with that gun. That model has a .656 exit diameter and performs very well in the SBE & Nova that take the same choke.

Thanks,
Clark
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: SKFOOTER on March 30, 2011, 09:27:54 PM
Jellyhead .655 or Kicks .655 and Hevi #7's. :z-guntootsmiley:
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: savduck on March 30, 2011, 10:17:18 PM
Im running an Indian Creek 665 and winchester extended range 6s. AWESOME PATTERN. I have patterned it out to 55 yards, and I very confident that I could kill easily out to probably 65 with it if I ever needed to. I dont count pellets, but I make my own targets on 8 X11 paper and at 55 yards, the paper is completely covered with pellets with an even dense spread, no holes.


My gun also had a good pattern with a Kicks 660 with winchester extended range 5s. Before I bought the indian Creek I also shot winchester 3" lead 4s out of the factory turkey choke. It was a solid 40 yard guns. Also like a 665 Terror Choke.

My gun did not like.....jelly head 665, rhino 673, briley hevi shot turkey choke, puregold 665.
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: Neill_Prater on March 30, 2011, 11:10:59 PM
Thanks for all the replies. I'm hoping some more guys chime in as well. Right now, it looks as if the IC 665 might be a good place to start. I've not shot any Hevishot shells for years, and am not aware of any local dealers, other than perhaps some regular gun shops. Winchester Xtendeds have kind of become my ammo of choice the last few years, and are readily available at the Bass Pro store in Springfield, plus they do well in my Remington. I could, of course, order some Hevi's, but if I can pick something up that will perform as well, I prefer to do that.
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: pullit on March 31, 2011, 08:33:15 AM
I am running a IC and Hevi #7's hand loads in mine (1 3/4 oz).

(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n164/jkwillou/turkey%20shotguns/Ronnyshandloads008.jpg)

Just drill and tapped it for a Burris FF site. I hated the saddle mount I was using before.

(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n164/jkwillou/turkey%20shotguns/003-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: SKFOOTER on March 31, 2011, 09:59:42 AM
Just for the record, I could not get any of the Indian Creek tubes to pattern any load to my liking in my SBE or my M1.  The Jellyhead .655 and the Kicks .655 were the choke tubes that patterned best in those guns.
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: Neill_Prater on March 31, 2011, 11:15:32 PM
Just realized I failed to mention my 2000 is the SteadyGrip model with a 24 inch barrel. Not sure if the barrel length is much of a factor in the correct choke, but thought it might be. Neill
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: pullit on April 01, 2011, 08:32:16 AM
Mine has the steady grip on it as well. I think mine is a 24 barrel as well.
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: reynolds243 on April 01, 2011, 09:33:25 AM
Quote from: Neill_Prater on March 31, 2011, 11:15:32 PM
Just realized I failed to mention my 2000 is the SteadyGrip model with a 24 inch barrel. Not sure if the barrel length is much of a factor in the correct choke, but thought it might be. Neill

same on mine that was the same setup i posted pics of above of the 244 count.
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: SKFOOTER on April 01, 2011, 09:38:28 AM
All the more reason to go with the .655.
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: reynolds243 on April 01, 2011, 09:54:05 AM
Quote from: SKFOOTER on March 31, 2011, 09:59:42 AM
Just for the record, I could not get any of the Indian Creek tubes to pattern any load to my liking in my SBE or my M1.  The Jellyhead .655 and the Kicks .655 were the choke tubes that patterned best in those guns.

i had the jelly head 655 in mine and the IC 665 patterned much better at 40.
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: SKFOOTER on April 01, 2011, 10:04:54 AM
Quote from: reynolds243 on April 01, 2011, 09:54:05 AM
Quote from: SKFOOTER on March 31, 2011, 09:59:42 AM
Just for the record, I could not get any of the Indian Creek tubes to pattern any load to my liking in my SBE or my M1.  The Jellyhead .655 and the Kicks .655 were the choke tubes that patterned best in those guns.

i had the jelly head 655 in mine and the IC 665 patterned much better at 40.
In both of my Benelli's the Jellyhead .655 out patterned both the IC .660 and .665 with Hevi-Shot #6's and #7's. 
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: reynolds243 on April 01, 2011, 10:25:30 AM
right but we are talking about a stoeger not a M2 or SBE...granted they are made with the same stuff but still a different gun.
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: savduck on April 01, 2011, 11:49:15 AM
Quote from: reynolds243 on April 01, 2011, 09:33:25 AM
Quote from: Neill_Prater on March 31, 2011, 11:15:32 PM
Just realized I failed to mention my 2000 is the SteadyGrip model with a 24 inch barrel. Not sure if the barrel length is much of a factor in the correct choke, but thought it might be. Neill

same on mine that was the same setup i posted pics of above of the 244 count.

+2.

Im also running the pistol grip 24 " barrel. Have a second one that I use for duck hunting. Came with 28 and 24 inch barrell and straight stock and pistol grip.
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: devin4484 on April 01, 2011, 01:04:21 PM
mine does good with a kicks .655 or an icbds .665 with 3" hevi shot mag blends
24" barrel with pistol grip stock
beware of the kick out of these guns!  mine is especailly bad idk bout your guys but I hate to pattern it.
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: SKFOOTER on April 01, 2011, 01:27:15 PM
Quote from: reynolds243 on April 01, 2011, 10:25:30 AM
right but we are talking about a stoeger not a M2 or SBE...granted they are made with the same stuff but still a different gun.
I have an M1 and a SBE1.  Barrel dimensions are the same as the Stoeger 2000. 
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: Neill_Prater on April 01, 2011, 11:15:20 PM
Anyone else shooting Winchester Xtendeds out of their Stoeger besides savduck? Seems everyone else has mentioned Hevi13's, but Xtendeds are more easily available locally.
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: slicksbeagles1 on April 02, 2011, 08:45:03 AM
how is the recoil on the stoeger
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: Neill_Prater on April 02, 2011, 10:34:29 AM
Quote from: slicksbeagles1 on April 02, 2011, 08:45:03 AM
how is the recoil on the stoeger


Kicks, but that is to be expected because of the weight. I have an 11-87 that is probably over a pound heavier, plus the gas operationg system supposedly spreads the recoil over a longer time. It kicks to, to me. I have had problems flinching in the past, so was a little concerned with shooting the Stoeger. However, like always, when shooting turkeys, I never notice. When patterning or sighting in, they both kick like hell, so all in all, I'd rather tote around the Stoeger all day as the Remington.  :) Neill
Title: Re: Stoeger 2000?
Post by: reynolds243 on April 02, 2011, 08:32:35 PM
Quote from: Neill_Prater on April 01, 2011, 11:15:20 PM
Anyone else shooting Winchester Xtendeds out of their Stoeger besides savduck? Seems everyone else has mentioned Hevi13's, but Xtendeds are more easily available locally.

i shot them for 2 years and killed 8 birds with them....they were good but switched to hevi this year just to try it out. The hevi pattern better overall in mine though.