I bought some Winchester HV 3.5/2oz/5s for my NEF 10ga I recently purchased and mounted a recoil pad on it. I shot it for the first time today just to see what the recoil was like. I don't see what all the fuss is about. It doesn't seem to kick any harder than my 870 SM with a 3.5, and seems to be less than the 835s I have shot. LOL, I was disappointed.
Sure be glad when HeviShot gets the MagBlends out.
Glad you were disappointed, lot of folks were making the recoil out to be pretty grim.
The 870, 835, comparison pretty much hit the nail on the head.
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http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/talkstoturkeys/hunting%202011/?action=view¤t=10Ga1.mp4
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That video doesn't make it look bad anything with much punch will do that. I just don't think the recoil is anywhere near what people say it is. But hey that's just my opinion. I can't wait to do some patterning.
Quote from: woodchip on November 06, 2011, 05:40:53 PM
That video doesn't make it look bad anything with much punch will do that. I just don't think the recoil is anywhere near what people say it is. But hey that's just my opinion. I can't wait to do some patterning.
It's not bad. Thats my point. I get a
kick out of reading peoples posts about how brutal the recoil is. ::)
I hip fire my bps10 sometimes to show friends it not bad. My 13 yr old brother shoots my bps10. :smiley-char092:
Quote from: TalksToTurkeys on November 06, 2011, 08:34:58 PM
Quote from: woodchip on November 06, 2011, 05:40:53 PM
That video doesn't make it look bad anything with much punch will do that. I just don't think the recoil is anywhere near what people say it is. But hey that's just my opinion. I can't wait to do some patterning.
It's not bad. Thats my point. I get a kick out of reading peoples posts about how brutal the recoil is. ::)
Well...depending on the shell...which applies to any gun, Try a load of 3 oz lead from Nitro in it. I grew up shooting Mossbergs in pumps and autos till my mid 20's so I have the scar tissue and brain damage in place to handle the lighter kicking 10's.
any load between 1.75oz and 2.25oz at std velocities (less than 1300fps) are very mild in recoil, keep in mind that the gun weighs over 9lbs, the most important factor in felt recoil is the weight of the gun.
with a 3.5" 12ga and a 3.5"10ga most factory loads are similiar in payload and velocity except the 12 weight a couple of lbs less so there is more felt recoil.
the recoil from the 3.5" mag blends was brutal out of my 870 but the similar payload and velocity in my 10ga nef was pleasant in comparison more of a push than a punch
No doubt, my 870SM has much more felt recoil than my SP-10 with Nitro's.
Gman
I load 3 oz handloads, and out of the nef i am told its chiropractic !
I had a 25 count box of nitro 3 ouncers in #5's, and a 12 pack of triplex 3 ouncers ---- the 2.25 and 2.50 ounce nitros out shot the 3 ouncers pattern wise -
now ...the recoil, was no joke - it really is a hard kicker
I would agree about the Nitros. I've never shot them but they would have to hurt with that payload.
Quote from: gobbler74 on November 07, 2011, 02:38:27 PM
Quote from: TalksToTurkeys on November 06, 2011, 08:34:58 PM
Quote from: woodchip on November 06, 2011, 05:40:53 PM
That video doesn't make it look bad anything with much punch will do that. I just don't think the recoil is anywhere near what people say it is. But hey that's just my opinion. I can't wait to do some patterning.
It's not bad. Thats my point. I get a kick out of reading peoples posts about how brutal the recoil is. ::)
Well...depending on the shell...which applies to any gun, Try a load of 3 oz lead from Nitro in it. I grew up shooting Mossbergs in pumps and autos till my mid 20's so I have the scar tissue and brain damage in place to handle the lighter kicking 10's.
That load was Win. 2oz. copper plated 6's with the factory tube and recoil pad I believe.
After I put a ported choke in and limbsaver recoil pad on I did shoot the Nitro 3oz.
And yes the recoil is a little more noticeable. :o
If Fiocchi would make a heavy 10 load I wonder what the recoil would be? I patterned some of the 12 ga 3.5" 2-3/8 oz nickel plated loads a few years back..thats probably the heaviest stomp I've felt from a 12. If they patterned like they kicked, but unfortunately they aren't much for patterns
I have that gun and the kick is less brutal than a lot of 12's. It's in the weight of the gun. I also have a NEF 12 ga pardner fitted with a 3-1/2" turkey barrel. When you shoot a 2.25 oz Nitro out of that setup it WILL be a few seconds before you remember where you are at...lol
Quote from: drenalinld on November 08, 2011, 08:23:01 AM
I have that gun and the kick is less brutal than a lot of 12's. It's in the weight of the gun. I also have a NEF 12 ga pardner fitted with a 3-1/2" turkey barrel. When you shoot a 2.25 oz Nitro out of that setup it WILL be a few seconds before you remember where you are at...lol
I can imagine. Factory load shooters dont know what they are missing.....Oh the good times, displaced retinas, loose fillings..memories to cherish I tell ya. ;D
Those Fiocchi's whup just as hard from a 12...but patterns are just not even worth the abuse.
Since we are talking about recoil...I also suggest that you guys try a lead sled if you dont have one. You can spend hours patterning different shotguns, chokes, shells and make a day of it with buddys and not drag your shooting shoulder around like a dead stick the next day. You can really beat yourself up with the heavy loads. It will help zeroing patterns and help prevent real medical problems that can come from the recoil. I use just 10-15 lbs of weight and man it makes a HUGE difference. Makes it better for your kids too if you want to get them shooting a 410 or 20 for the first time without making them gun shy.
I've been considering a lead sled for a while just never jump on it. I need to go on and get one since they work so well.
For so many years I carried them black and blue bruises after a day of turkey gun patterning..mostly mossberg scars. Thats the folly of youth.
There are many models..I still have the older version. This is one of the newer less expensive models.
http://www.cabelas.com/benches-rests-caldwell-lead-sled-solo-1.shtml
Tip: A 25 lb lead shot bag can run $25 and up ... but you can save your dough, use an old sewn up sweat pant leg, about 18" will leave enough to sew up one end and trim off the other before tying it up etc stuff it with $25 worth of those previously lost pennies and you still got your money on the hip. :icon_thumright:
I shoot mine with a syn. handi-stock, and it's still not as bad as my 835.
I used to shoot an American Arms double sxs in 10. Recoil was much friendlier that my pump guns. Course it weighed nearly 12 lbs, which is why I said "used to"! The extra 4-5 lbs of hump weight was not comfortable where we used to hunt as walking to where the birds where was like 1.5 miles one way. Then if we scored, the bird felt like 125 lbs by the time we got back to the truck! Now with the loads that are available for 12's and 20's, I really don't see the need for a 10...
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