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Turkey Guns & Shooting => 20 Gauge Turkey Guns => Topic started by: Jrkimbrough on January 15, 2019, 08:24:27 PM

Title: New Federal TSS 8/10 loads
Post by: Jrkimbrough on January 15, 2019, 08:24:27 PM
Got a couple boxes of the new blended Federal TSS loads. These are actually 1 5/8 oz loads VS the 1 1/2 oz #9 loads. 

Hopefully this weather will get warmer and dry up soon so I can test em.

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Title: Re: New Federal TSS 8/10 loads
Post by: mrclif on January 15, 2019, 10:07:58 PM
Should be a beast

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Title: Re: New Federal TSS 8/10 loads
Post by: Upfold99 on January 16, 2019, 06:24:48 AM
Does anyone know pellet count on the 1 5/8oz  #8-#10 blend? Would be curious to compare it to 1 5/8oz of straight #9s

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Title: Re: New Federal TSS 8/10 loads
Post by: BandedSpur on January 16, 2019, 08:45:34 AM
Have no idea what is in their shells, but a 50-50 blend with 1&5/8 oz of true sized 8s and 10s would contain 637 pellets. 1.5 oz of true sized 9s has 536 pellets. The 9s are by far the better shell IMO. I would only use 10s in the .410, where the increased pattern density could potentially increase your effective range. Nines are the sweet spot with TSS in the larger gauges where penetration and pattern density are most balanced. Eights  have a huge surplus of penetration ability at the expense of pattern density. Tens have a huge number of pellets at the expense of penetration ability.

Having said all that, at 40 yds it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever. You will have a dead turkey on your hands with TSS 7s, 8s, 9s, or 10s.
Title: Re: New Federal TSS 8/10 loads
Post by: Upfold99 on January 16, 2019, 10:10:01 AM
I was curious. I think straight 9s at 1 5/8oz is around 590. So the diff is roughly 47 pellets on the 9s vs the 8-10 blend.

Thanks for the info.

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Title: Re: New Federal TSS 8/10 loads
Post by: BandedSpur on January 17, 2019, 07:32:26 AM
According to the OP, the straight 9s are only 1.5 oz, not 1&5/8, so if that is true, the difference is more like 100 pellets.
Title: Re: New Federal TSS 8/10 loads
Post by: Upfold99 on January 17, 2019, 07:35:11 AM
Quote from: BandedSpur on January 17, 2019, 07:32:26 AM
According to the OP, the straight 9s are only 1.5 oz, not 1&5/8, so if that is true, the difference is more like 100 pellets.
I agree. I was asking with another brand shell in mind.

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Title: Re: New Federal TSS 8/10 loads
Post by: vagobbler67 on January 17, 2019, 10:06:37 PM
I see they are only 1000fps that's 200fps slower than the 1.5oz #9 load......That is significant and is gonna hurt penetration.....what are other thoughts on this?
Title: Re: New Federal TSS 8/10 loads
Post by: strutstopper on January 18, 2019, 12:31:31 AM
Quote from: vagobbler67 on January 17, 2019, 10:06:37 PM
I see they are only 1000fps that's 200fps slower than the 1.5oz #9 load......That is significant and is gonna hurt penetration.....what are other thoughts on this?

The 9s are only 1100 fps, that's what is listed on the box.
Title: Re: New Federal TSS 8/10 loads
Post by: BandedSpur on January 18, 2019, 07:16:01 AM
Quote from: vagobbler67 on January 17, 2019, 10:06:37 PM
I see they are only 1000fps that's 200fps slower than the 1.5oz #9 load......That is significant and is gonna hurt penetration.....what are other thoughts on this?

The 10s still get 1.5" of penetration at 40 yds when launched at 1000 fps.
Title: Re: New Federal TSS 8/10 loads
Post by: CrustyRusty on January 18, 2019, 08:03:37 AM
I'm hoping Someone comes out with an Osmium load.  At 22.59 g/cm we should be able to shoot turkeys at 100 yards with dust.  :drool:
Title: Re: New Federal TSS 8/10 loads
Post by: vagobbler67 on January 18, 2019, 04:05:05 PM
Unless this is a misprint it shows 20ga #9 1.5 oz at 1200fps.....The 20ga reduced recoil loads were 1000fps..............I am just curious because I just put together a remington 20ga and will be testing ammo here shortly and am trying to decide which to try........Do I try the Federals or just try the Apex?                                                                                                                                                                                                                         https://www.rogerssportinggoods.com/ammunition/shotgun-shells/turkey-load/heavyweight-tss/federal-premium-heavyweight-tss-turkey-loads-20-gauge-3-1-1-2oz-1200-fps.html
Title: Re: New Federal TSS 8/10 loads
Post by: owlhoot on January 19, 2019, 09:04:39 PM
Quote from: BandedSpur on January 18, 2019, 07:16:01 AM
Quote from: vagobbler67 on January 17, 2019, 10:06:37 PM
I see they are only 1000fps that's 200fps slower than the 1.5oz #9 load......That is significant and is gonna hurt penetration.....what are other thoughts on this?

The 10s still get 1.5" of penetration at 40 yds when launched at 1000 fps.


I believe the 9 shot was only 1000 fps , only the 7's were faster.
Title: Re: New Federal TSS 8/10 loads
Post by: owlhoot on January 19, 2019, 09:38:35 PM
Quote from: BandedSpur on January 17, 2019, 07:32:26 AM
According to the OP, the straight 9s are only 1.5 oz, not 1&5/8, so if that is true, the difference is more like 100 pellets.


That could be good , my 9's are about 70 pellets short in the 1 1/2oz. loads. Purchased last year.


Now my question for these 1 5/8oz. loads . Are these size 8's and 10's or size 8 to size 10? (8-10)
Title: Re: New Federal TSS 8/10 loads
Post by: Upfold99 on January 20, 2019, 07:52:04 AM
Quote from: owlhoot on January 19, 2019, 09:38:35 PM
Quote from: BandedSpur on January 17, 2019, 07:32:26 AM
According to the OP, the straight 9s are only 1.5 oz, not 1&5/8, so if that is true, the difference is more like 100 pellets.


That could be good , my 9's are about 70 pellets short in the 1 1/2oz. loads. Purchased last year.


Now my question for these 1 5/8oz. loads . Are these size 8's and 10's or size 8 to size 10? (8-10)
I believe they are an 8-10 blend in the same shell.

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Title: Re: New Federal TSS 8/10 loads
Post by: Jrkimbrough on February 01, 2019, 12:09:18 PM
Quote from: owlhoot on January 19, 2019, 09:38:35 PM
Quote from: BandedSpur on January 17, 2019, 07:32:26 AM
According to the OP, the straight 9s are only 1.5 oz, not 1&5/8, so if that is true, the difference is more like 100 pellets.


That could be good , my 9's are about 70 pellets short in the 1 1/2oz. loads. Purchased last year.


Now my question for these 1 5/8oz. loads . Are these size 8's and 10's or size 8 to size 10? (8-10)

According to Federal's website it says 8 and 10's.....
Title: Re: New Federal TSS 8/10 loads
Post by: Jrkimbrough on February 02, 2019, 05:12:11 PM
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Title: Re: New Federal TSS 8/10 loads
Post by: BandedSpur on February 03, 2019, 08:33:01 AM
Beautiful, even pattern, but I would still prefer straight 9s
Title: Re: New Federal TSS 8/10 loads
Post by: sixbird on February 03, 2019, 09:53:11 AM
WOW BandedSpur!!!
There is no more perfect pattern than that! And a 20 ga.? My goodness, a fly would take a chance flying through that!