Mississippi failed to pass the new bill that would incorporate a Turkey Stamp where 100% of the proceeds would go to the wild turkey. I only saw support for the bill so I'm pretty shocked it didn't pass.
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Yep sad!
Politics, politics, politics.
Don't get me started ....
Would be willing to buy that myself if my state implemented it, just want to be sure the money is well watched and used only for the turkey the way the claim.
Quote from: Sir-diealot on May 06, 2024, 09:16:25 PMWould be willing to buy that myself if my state implemented it, just want to be sure the money is well watched and used only for the turkey the way the claim.
I would also but unfortunately politics always get in the way
I was in favor of the Stamp and funding for the turkeys. I did question whom would be making decisions on "how" this money would better the turkey and where.
I buy one in Arkansas every year and Have never hunted Arkansas.
I thought the bill did pass though
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MS needs tags, law enforcement, and a baiting ban
Quote from: Guskie on May 06, 2024, 10:24:15 PMMS needs tags, law enforcement, and a baiting ban
Yes, the wardens are incredibly stretched thin. I'd also love to see fines increased exponentially. The fines are so cheap now it's easy to weigh the risk and reward. Make it hurt if you get caught doing something against the law
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I've been wishing for years Alabama would do a stamp or some form of turkey permit.
Yes sir i was highly disappointed that neither version passed!
Mississippi is going to a mandatory tag before you drag next season and a very stiff trespassing fine. Things are in for a big change come next season
So Mississippi will have tags but no stamp, or neither tags nor stamps next year? Confused
Quote from: deadbuck on May 07, 2024, 10:16:21 PMSo Mississippi will have tags but no stamp, or neither tags nor stamps next year? Confused
MS will have turkey tags in 2025, but no stamp.
Absolutely need stiff enough fines to discourage law breakers!!! That would be the best starting point IMHO.
What good are new regulations when the current ones are not being enforced to the fullest? Tags will be no more beneficial than the current online game check system unless MS greatly steps up its game law enforcement presence. And yes, I've checked in EVERY turkey I've killed here since the online check system was implemented and I'll equally adhere to any new tagging laws.
Quote from: Jbird22 on May 08, 2024, 10:36:51 AMWhat good are new regulations when the current ones are not being enforced to the fullest? Tags will be no more beneficial than the current online game check system unless MS greatly steps up its game law enforcement presence. And yes, I've checked in EVERY turkey I've killed here since the online check system was implemented and I'll equally adhere to any new tagging laws.
I'm not sure what part of the state you're hunting, but here in jones, smith and jasper co they have stepped up the enforcement that's for sure. I mean big time!
Quote from: slave601 on May 08, 2024, 05:08:57 PMQuote from: Jbird22 on May 08, 2024, 10:36:51 AMWhat good are new regulations when the current ones are not being enforced to the fullest? Tags will be no more beneficial than the current online game check system unless MS greatly steps up its game law enforcement presence. And yes, I've checked in EVERY turkey I've killed here since the online check system was implemented and I'll equally adhere to any new tagging laws.
I'm not sure what part of the state you're hunting, but here in jones, smith and jasper co they have stepped up the enforcement that's for sure. I mean big time!
Covington and S for the most part. The areas you speak of needed it for sure. Hopefully it's just the start of better enforcement. If hunters here could only control their greed...
The first thing that has to happen is to shorten the season. The lawbreakers have too much time to break the law. Wish we could adopt the Missouri model, they killed 47,129 birds in 3 weeks. And, their harvest rates are consistently good from year to year.
Yep, very disappointing deal.
Warden's are seldom seen in my region .
Quote from: Howie g on May 10, 2024, 11:41:49 AMWarden's are seldom seen in my region .
Same here
Quote from: deadbuck on May 09, 2024, 09:38:52 AMThe first thing that has to happen is to shorten the season. The lawbreakers have too much time to break the law. Wish we could adopt the Missouri model, they killed 47,129 birds in 3 weeks. And, their harvest rates are consistently good from year to year.
You can't realistically compare MS to MO when it comes to turkey numbers. They're 2 totally different animals. I do agree that MS would benefit from a similar enforcement approach as MO has though.
Also, I'm totally against shortening the season.
To me 6 weeks of pressure on turkeys is way too long in my opinion. If you can't get it done in that time frame I don't know what else to tell you. March 25th - April 25th is plenty long enough. Also a 2 bird limit wouldn't be bad. Even tho non residents have a draw for public land the area I hunt in central Mississippi is covered in non residents. I don't know how many are awarded a license but it's still a good bit there. Also I hate that only Florida opens up earlier than us. That's why I say bump it back to March 25th to match Alabamas opener
Quote from: slave601 on May 11, 2024, 02:17:00 PMTo me 6 weeks of pressure on turkeys is way too long in my opinion. If you can't get it done in that time frame I don't know what else to tell you. March 25th - April 25th is plenty long enough. Also a 2 bird limit wouldn't be bad.
Personally, it's hard for me to hunt as much as I like due to my occupation. I have plenty of PTO, but it's a terrible time of year for me to try to take off much. That's why I like the season structure as is. It's been several years since I got a limit.
If people would just get their 3 and stop, the length of the season would be a MUCH smaller factor. As for the 2 bird limit, it would likely only apply to those who currently obey it. Unfortunately, most of the ones b!tching about not having turkeys to hunt are the ones who are consumed by greed and don't know when to quit.
Quote from: slave601 on May 11, 2024, 02:17:00 PMEven tho non residents have a draw for public land the area I hunt in central Mississippi is covered in non residents. I don't know how many are awarded a license but it's still a good bit there.
I've been told that some non-residents have said they just come on over and hunt without getting drawn. Thus my remark for needing an increase in enforcement.
Has MS been seeing the declining turkey pops like elsewhere? More states should be way more proactive on stabilizing our bird numbers, but it doesn't seem to be much of a priority.
Hate to see it didn't pass, We have them here in Arkansas, although I guess all it has gotten us is a shortened season that starts about the 2nd week of Summer, when bombarded with "yall gotta do something" these agencies have mostly decided the best band aid in the business is to cut the season back and cut the limit back, neither of which makes a gotdang bit of difference as they are finding through research now.
Kudos to Adam Butler and the MDWFP for not jumping on that train of shortended late seasons.
A nationwide ban on baiting would be ideal, no male decoys allowed nationwide, the Ole Gobbler would bounce back pretty quick, a big problem we have is how many end up with a boot on their neck.
My redneck opinion, worth exactly what it cost.
Even if your State does enact a Turkey stamp, Good Luck with 100% of the monies going to turkey restoration. The crooks that enact the stamp will have their hands in it so quick to pay for other things, It will make your head spin. Another TAX that you'll may see 10% of the monies actually used for what it's Earmarked for.