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Title: “Hybrid” Jordans or just Jordans
Post by: Meleagris gallopavo on February 29, 2024, 07:52:09 AM
I own a couple of these Jordans made of 1 piece of wood.  I see some made of 2 pieces of wood.  Are these "hybrid" Jordan's or just Jordans (or does it matter). Guess I'm stuck on cane yelpers being Jordan's, but I may be way wrong.  I "think" I saw both wood and cane calls in the NWTF Jordan competition.  Anyway, I see more of the wood Jordans around lately than I have seen.


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Title: Re: “Hybrid” Jordans or just Jordans
Post by: davisd9 on February 29, 2024, 07:59:01 AM
Anything not made of cane and a wingbone is a Jordan style or hybrid. A true Jordan is made from cane and a wingbone. It is called a Jordan from the call made by Charles Jordan. The only two true Jordan's you typically see is from EZ or Mark Sharpe. A gentleman recently made a replica of the Charles Jordan call as he made it.
Title: Re: “Hybrid” Jordans or just Jordans
Post by: blackfalcon on February 29, 2024, 08:12:01 AM
A true Jordan such as one attributed to Charles Jordan were made in a such manner of using 2 pieces of cane and a wingbone. Some variations on such calls as those developed by Simon Everest utilized a piece of Elder wood which has a pithy center and were even tuned in the woods with a pocket knife while listening to wild turkeys. Those were the Roanoke calls category I guess you would call those.
The more recent calls being made from one piece of wood or other material are not a true Jordan's but many call them Jordan's or Jordan style and were and have been accepted as such in the Jordan category in Nashville
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZqvLFjpk/10636389-900836193269657-2569754070053648784-o.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: “Hybrid” Jordans or just Jordans
Post by: blackfalcon on February 29, 2024, 08:48:50 AM
These are some calls that I made in the past and called Lil Tramp calls in what many might consider the Jordan Style category..They are for the most part one piece turned body and mouthpiece either hen bone or turned
(https://i.postimg.cc/DfgTFzGJ/48407910-2260086217344641-7980983554563637248-n.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/HkCWsNxj/48906552-2260079577345305-3360471365458067456-n.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/1RjfPMwN/48893730-2260083220678274-8454409050753335296-n.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/tgJ4LxJz/49261883-2260084944011435-4517094071017144320-n.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: “Hybrid” Jordans or just Jordans
Post by: EZ on February 29, 2024, 09:20:17 AM
WOW Dave, those are very nice!!!
You are correct in your explanation. The only thing I would add, is for the "Jordan Style" category in the Grand Nationals, the body must be two separate pieces glued together.
Title: Re: “Hybrid” Jordans or just Jordans
Post by: Meleagris gallopavo on February 29, 2024, 09:54:13 AM
I'm glad I asked.  Thanks!


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Title: Re: “Hybrid” Jordans or just Jordans
Post by: crow on February 29, 2024, 10:33:07 AM
Very nice work
Title: Re: “Hybrid” Jordans or just Jordans
Post by: Greg Massey on February 29, 2024, 10:40:12 AM
Quote from: Meleagris gallopavo on February 29, 2024, 09:54:13 AM
I'm glad I asked.  Thanks!


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X2 ... Great information and history shared
Title: Re: “Hybrid” Jordans or just Jordans
Post by: blackfalcon on February 29, 2024, 11:05:26 AM
Quote from: EZ on February 29, 2024, 09:20:17 AM
WOW Dave, those are very nice!!!
You are correct in your explanation. The only thing I would add, is for the "Jordan Style" category in the Grand Nationals, the body must be two separate pieces glued together.
Thanks EZ Rider..Lol..Love your wingbone! Didn't know they had to be 2 pieces...  So something like this would work..
(https://i.postimg.cc/sD5SycZm/23116883-10155815657992370-8098781707131290865-o.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: “Hybrid” Jordans or just Jordans
Post by: tal on February 29, 2024, 11:37:47 AM
 Thanks. A good read and some grand pics.
Title: Re: “Hybrid” Jordans or just Jordans
Post by: EZ on February 29, 2024, 02:02:25 PM
Quote from: blackfalcon on February 29, 2024, 11:05:26 AM
Quote from: EZ on February 29, 2024, 09:20:17 AM
WOW Dave, those are very nice!!!
You are correct in your explanation. The only thing I would add, is for the "Jordan Style" category in the Grand Nationals, the body must be two separate pieces glued together.
Thanks EZ Rider..Lol..Love your wingbone! Didn't know they had to be 2 pieces...  So something like this would work..
(https://i.postimg.cc/sD5SycZm/23116883-10155815657992370-8098781707131290865-o.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Oh yeah!!! That's really sharp!!!
Title: Re: “Hybrid” Jordans or just Jordans
Post by: turkey stew on February 29, 2024, 06:32:44 PM
Dave, thank you for the history and the awesome pics of your calls!
Title: Re: “Hybrid” Jordans or just Jordans
Post by: ChesterCopperpot on February 29, 2024, 07:08:55 PM
Quote from: blackfalcon on February 29, 2024, 08:12:01 AM
Some variations on such calls as those developed by Simon Everest utilized a piece of Elder wood which has a pithy center and were even tuned in the woods with a pocket knife while listening to wild turkeys. Those were the Roanoke calls category I guess you would call those.
Not trying to be argumentative but to my knowledge Roanoke basin calls were not developed as a variation of Charles Jordan's cane yelper. There are some Roanoke examples that date pretty closely in the late 1800s. I believe the two styles are unrelated and developed simultaneously with the Roanokes being geographically isolated to the river basin through Virginia and North Carolina.


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Title: Re: “Hybrid” Jordans or just Jordans
Post by: Zobo on February 29, 2024, 07:58:57 PM
Quote from: EZ on February 29, 2024, 02:02:25 PM
Quote from: blackfalcon on February 29, 2024, 11:05:26 AM
Quote from: EZ on February 29, 2024, 09:20:17 AM
WOW Dave, those are very nice!!!
You are correct in your explanation. The only thing I would add, is for the "Jordan Style" category in the Grand Nationals, the body must be two separate pieces glued together.
Thanks EZ Rider..Lol..Love your wingbone! Didn't know they had to be 2 pieces...  So something like this would work..
(https://i.postimg.cc/sD5SycZm/23116883-10155815657992370-8098781707131290865-o.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Oh yeah!!! That's really sharp!!!


Not only sharp, but made out of an old fishing rod, too cool!!!
You always leave me in awe Mr. Blackfalcon, lol!
Title: Re: “Hybrid” Jordans or just Jordans
Post by: Ranman on March 01, 2024, 07:44:19 PM
Damn Dave, those are nice..
Title: Re: “Hybrid” Jordans or just Jordans
Post by: Tom007 on March 02, 2024, 07:03:59 AM
Quote from: blackfalcon on February 29, 2024, 08:12:01 AM
A true Jordan such as one attributed to Charles Jordan were made in a such manner of using 2 pieces of cane and a wingbone. Some variations on such calls as those developed by Simon Everest utilized a piece of Elder wood which has a pithy center and were even tuned in the woods with a pocket knife while listening to wild turkeys. Those were the Roanoke calls category I guess you would call those.
The more recent calls being made from one piece of wood or other material are not a true Jordan's but many call them Jordan's or Jordan style and were and have been accepted as such in the Jordan category in Nashville
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZqvLFjpk/10636389-900836193269657-2569754070053648784-o.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Very informative, and thanks for sharing your photos. I learned a lot here, thank you....
Title: Re: “Hybrid” Jordans or just Jordans
Post by: Osceola352 on March 07, 2024, 09:14:43 AM
Some good looking calls

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