Well after reading over the reviews on this forum, I broke down and bought a new owl and crow call.
I have had a primos shockin owl for a few years and it has worked well, I have also only had the cheap crow calls from the big box stores. So I ordered a Hoot n Stick and wow, I thought my old call sounded okay this thing is all owl. The crow call is what I was kind of shy about dropping a lot of money on but I broke down and bought a Darrell Gibson call from CrowMart and I am amazed. the other calls I have do not compare at all to these two! Very pleased to say the least money well spent!