Going to try that combo Fri. The weather is supposed to be warm enough. Choke is a .690, Gun will be a browning bps.
What all chokes do you gave to pattern with this load?
Quote from: LBSS on October 26, 2011, 01:44:26 PM
What all chokes do you gave to pattern with this load?
A few. First, a PG .690. I shot it awhile back with the MB's. Patterned good. I have a Rhino .685 and .720 too but my experience with those are they really dont work well with EM shells. Nitro on the other hannd shoot great in them. I've got high hopes for the IC.
Have you thought about trying maybe a trulock,carlsons,briley, colonial , and others. I have 4a chokes fir my bps
A briley LM, wadwizard supreme, trulock precision hunter.680 and on order a custom Wilson precision .7000 . I wanted something inbetween the 720s and 680s. Only choke I couldn't get to pattern good was the wad wizard
What shot size and load weight? I didnt think colonial would guarantee their chokes with htl? In most cases it works fine as with hastings.
Didnt know hastings was still in business?
Looking forward to the results, wonder if buffer makes the difference between Nitro and EM
performance in different chokes ? When i can get the mag blends, I want to run them through a
Terror choke in 705 and 720.
Quote from: LBSS on October 26, 2011, 05:39:23 PM
Didnt know hastings was still in business?
HTL works well with their chokes even though they werent hevi approved. Kinda like a lot of the chokes out there. Kicks chokes for example. Fine choke works well with lead and htl. Owner has some problem with htl and wont say his chokes are approved for it. Colonial chokes on the other hand are made about 20 miles from where Im sitting now. There is a contracted fab shop that cuts most of those. The fab shop owner said he'd shoot whatever was made for the gun through them.
Did you get to try this combo?
OK,
Finally got time to set down and figure up the patterns from the IC .690, mag blends and Nitro 6x7's. Fridays weather was kind of nasty with temps at 40-45
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Yeah I the mag blends will fly off the shelf in 10 ga hell there also easier to get from a larger company than a company who is by phone only orders. Wish I had some to test in the. 680 and. 7000.
Quote from: LBSS on November 01, 2011, 10:13:06 PM
Yeah I the mag blends will fly off the shelf in 10 ga hell there also easier to get from a larger company than a company who is by phone only orders. Wish I had some to test in the. 680 and. 7000.
Heck yeah and less pixie dust in the blends...8-10 pellets aint worth twice the money..Thats just my opinion. Oddly enough since em made the mags and 7's..Nitro gets orders out much faster now.. My last order in the spring shipped the next day..Nitro is a kick A shell but its all in choice, opinion and service... I need to see how well the blends cycle in my auto...the 10's can be tricky.. I do know the 210b's are slick as long as they dont run out of rem hulls. We had some trouble out of the fed hulls in the b's a couple years ago. If magblends cycle I wont have that problem anymore.
Alright, glad to see it done so well. I can't wait until they are on the shelf!
Nice patterns, Jim. What is the payload of the Mag-Blends? 2 3/8oz or 2 1/2oz. Mike
2-3/8 on the blends..I told you my thoughts on the h210 b weight...they look awful close ;)
looks to me like the hole sizes in the mag blend pattern are much larger than the holes in the nitro pattern
Agreed, I mentioned there being less pixie dust in the blend shells. I was really impressed. If the shells stay under or around $30 for 5 they will be a super buy. Last I looked straight 5's were around $24
That is a very favorable pattern - I would like to remind people looking at this for comparative purposes that these are full velocity 10 gauge shells clocking in at 1200+ fps not 1080 fps .Its hard to tell from a picture ,but I do have to admit from looking at the pictures that Jim provided, that the pellet hole(s) size looks greatly increased over the other competitors offerings -
I am impressed , I will make purchase as soon as I can locate a supply
Quote from: Old Gobbler on November 04, 2011, 10:28:44 PM
I am impressed , I will make purchase as soon as I can locate a supply
:icon_thumright:
Maybe we can start actually having 10 ga factory loads that are true 10 ga power level. Like rems lightning. Steel supersonic 1700 fps 1 1/2 oz ouch
I'm not a reloader so probly going out on a limb here but I must say that how is it with the bore of the 10 and available hull size that a 2.5 oz factory load isn't available. From what I assume its like the tens are just loaded with 12 ga weights. That's the main reason I shoot htl, if just shooting lead a 12 will pattern just as well. I'm not up for spending the bucks on the 3 oz lead load from nitro. Spending that much I will take the 2.5 oz h210 load of hevi for performance. Those mag blends are a serious alternate. If they finally turn em loose I'm hoarding that stuff like a fat kid with cake.
If more people new that 10 didn't have bad recoil it be more popular. Also I reloader told me a
1 7/8 oz lead turkey loads in the 10 ga pattern better than the 2 oz + loads
Quote from: LBSS on November 06, 2011, 11:13:39 AM
If more people new that 10 didn't have bad recoil it be more popular. Also I reloader told me a
1 7/8 oz lead turkey loads in the 10 ga pattern better than the 2 oz + loads
My bps doesn't kick bad at all..but the trade off is the weight, she's a little wide in the hips..the gold isn't as heavy with the aluminum receiver and the auto action soaks up a bit more recoil too.
Certainly neither is like carrying a 20 or a little win 1300 turkey 12 but they don't have as big a bite either..
I don't notice the extra 4 lbs of weight anymore. Its all in the sling. Plus I see limbsaver has a wide kelly like sling fir around 40$ im looking at buying. Looks like something new or atleast different . You got to love them 10s for what they are a big gun with big power and when utilized correctly. Will bring impressive results.
Id like to see it adopted for tactical use
Where did you get the hevi-blend 10 ga shells? I have a Browning Gold 10 ga NWTF model and it definitely gets the job done with Nitro Ammo (4x6x7). I get great patterns, but heard that the hevi-blend is just as good. I haven't seen anything about 10ga yet, but once it comes out I'll surely put my hands on a few boxes. I got a 20ga and shoot the hevi-blend out of it and its amazing! My little ones are going to smash a few turkey heads once they are old enough! God bless and happy holidays!
Gobble,
Those are test loads I got from Environmetal in September. They should be on the shelf in Dec last I heard. Ive shot the same Nitro loads you are referring to and latest was a 6x7. Those are great as well. You should really like the performance from those magblends..I was impressed mainly keeping my thoughts on the sticker price of the 5's. I hope these new ones dont climb up too high in price. If you've shot the gold you know the h210 b's arent cheap. I have a nwtf gold that hasnt been fired yet so I havent checked cycling with the blends but I dont believe we'll have any problems.
What type of #s do hevi13 straight 5s out . A h13 #5 is. Hard hitting pellet. Got be like equal to a lead and #2 or #1. I hope to see some straight 6s besides the heviduck load which I will testing hopeful next week depending on ups lol
Quote from: LBSS on November 27, 2011, 10:36:24 AM
What type of #s do hevi13 straight 5s out . A h13 #5 is. Hard hitting pellet. Got be like equal to a lead and #2 or #1. I hope to see some straight 6s besides the heviduck load which I will testing hopeful next week depending on ups lol
155-165 out of a .685
Heck you can do that with win HV 5s.
Quote from: LBSS on November 28, 2011, 10:17:54 PM
Heck you can do that with win HV 5s.
A friend got some EM 5's last year for backups in his 10 in case he ran out of Nitros..I didnt like the patterns but shooting 6's and 7's will spoil you on patterns. The 5's have plenty in the kill zone to do the job. I'd shoot those hevi 5's before lead
The counts for the #5 hevi's may seem low , but take into mind that there is only 172 per ounce and that load is nearing 1 full ounce in a 10" at 40 yards -
A #5 Hevi is roughly double the physical weight of a #7 Hevi - if by chance EM can replicate that efficiency an transfer it to the #6 or#7 - 10 gauge loads due for production will be scorchers - could you imagine a #6 and #7 loads that shot 230 and 340 consistently shot after shot
The very best #5 hevi load out there IMO is the Nitro 2.25 load that shell shoots at 1240 fps and is a 170-190 load out of a .685 - a #5 at that speed breaks wings and legs - I've seen it
True 150 #5 htl will hit alot harder than 150#5s lead
Quote from: gobbler74 on November 26, 2011, 02:07:53 PM
Gobble,
Those are test loads I got from Environmetal in September. They should be on the shelf in Dec last I heard. Ive shot the same Nitro loads you are referring to and latest was a 6x7. Those are great as well. You should really like the performance from those magblends..I was impressed mainly keeping my thoughts on the sticker price of the 5's. I hope these new ones dont climb up too high in price. If you've shot the gold you know the h210 b's arent cheap. I have a nwtf gold that hasnt been fired yet so I havent checked cycling with the blends but I dont believe we'll have any problems.
Let me know when you shoot a few rounds of the magblend through your gold :)
Shot that combo too...Posted up a couple months ago.
Awesome pattern!!
When will these loads be available to general public?
Quote from: gobble157 on January 02, 2012, 10:48:48 PM
When will these loads be available to general public?
I guess we'll know shortly. I was told late fall 2011. they'll be round soon I hope. It'll be worth the wait.
Jim,
Have you heard anything lately about the release of 10 gauge EM, 6's and 7's. My source said before spring then things went kinda quiet.
Craig
I would imagine a SHOT show introduction would be in order that's a bit over a week away but who knows! :anim_25:
Quote from: DUCKDIGGLER on January 10, 2012, 05:20:46 PM
I would imagine a SHOT show introduction would be in order that's a bit over a week away but who knows! :anim_25:
Yeah have to agree but who knows..