Long story short, I moved houses since last turkey season and I cannot find my box chalk. I'm trying to avoid a trip to Walmart. Is there any problem with using my kid's sidewalk chalk on my box calls?
I believe there are not the same type of chalk....
Sidewalk chalk should work ok. You don't want any wax in the chalk combination. It will really screw box up and cause you to use a lot of elbow time with a rag and rubbing alcohol to get the caller back in service.
How do you know if there's wax in the chalk?
Quote from: Spyderman on April 16, 2020, 11:27:42 AM
How do you know if there's wax in the chalk?
No way to know for sure, and risk trashing your box call. So just order this online:
http://www.rainchalk.com/products.html (http://www.rainchalk.com/products.html)
I've always been told by the call makers, to use railroad chalk
Do not use sidewalk chalk, it almost always has oils in it, this is what just about every maker told me when I asked this when I first got here. Railroad chalk, rain chalk, some carpenters chalk but I do not think all so I do not suggest any.
Quote from: Spyderman on April 16, 2020, 11:04:00 AM
Long story short, I moved houses since last turkey season and I cannot find my box chalk. I'm trying to avoid a trip to Walmart. Is there any problem with using my kid's sidewalk chalk on my box calls?
Order some box call chalk from Springhill right here on OG. Not expensive and is quality.
This is timely I need to find some chalk. I could not find any contact information on Springhill, could you provide a little more info? Thank you
Sidewalk chalk is not a good idea, most call makers have told me to avoid it due to oil or wax in the chalk that will ruin the box. You can order a half moon of blue carpenters chalk from David halloran for five bucks that will last you forever. Also, Irwin white railroad chalk from Amazon is a good option. Third, you can order chalk from markal that will suffice.
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You can get in on amazon, bass pro, cabelas, Halloran's website there all kinds of places online to buy it from just google box call chalk. Pay the extra money for expedited shipping that's the price of doing business if you're concerned about going to Walmart and you need it quickly.
I actually found a large quantity of the red brick chalk thats extremely hard to find now on Ebay. Its the half moon blocks. I have enough to last many life times. One block would probably last a life time.
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on April 16, 2020, 03:00:42 PM
I actually found a large quantity of the red brick chalk thats extremely hard to find now on Ebay. Its the half moon blocks. I have enough to last many life times. One block would probably last a life time.
You and me both .. best chalk ...red brick ...
Quote from: Greg Massey on April 16, 2020, 06:08:57 PM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on April 16, 2020, 03:00:42 PM
I actually found a large quantity of the red brick chalk thats extremely hard to find now on Ebay. Its the half moon blocks. I have enough to last many life times. One block would probably last a life time.
You and me both .. best chalk ...red brick ...
I just got some too, best stuff for sure.
Chalk board chalk at Walmart works just fine!
I am a box call fan!
Quote from: longbeards on April 17, 2020, 08:51:31 AM
Chalk board chalk at Walmart works just fine!
I am a box call fan!
No to this, it has wax or oils in it and can destroy a call. One of the very first things I learned when I started turkey hunting was to never use chalk board chalk. You see everyone tell you to avoid it in books on calls. That and sidewalk chalk.
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 09:28:34 AM
Quote from: longbeards on April 17, 2020, 08:51:31 AM
Chalk board chalk at Walmart works just fine!
I am a box call fan!
No to this, it has wax or oils in it and can destroy a call. One of the very first things I learned when I started turkey hunting was to never use chalk board chalk. You see everyone tell you to avoid it in books on calls. That and sidewalk chalk.
Agree , why in the world would you take 100 - 250 dollar box call and use chalk board chalk from Walmart or side walk chalk .. to me that's insane in my opinion ..
Whats the best way to clean a box call that has sidewalk chalk on it?
Quote from: Click on April 17, 2020, 10:28:42 AM
Whats the best way to clean a box call that has sidewalk chalk on it?
Go to the Turkey call forum and it will tell you how to clean your box ...
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need chalk
Quote from: longbeards on April 17, 2020, 08:51:31 AM
Chalk board chalk at Walmart works just fine!
I am a box call fan!
Yeah works great if you want to ruin a call.
Get some of the half moon cake chalk from a call maker and use nothing else.
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need chalk
I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need chalk
I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
I make my own box calls, I don't sell, just for my own use. The only time I use chalk anymore is while tuning. I put some on the paddle, give a couple strokes to see that I'm hitting the Whole side rail, the chalk will show you. If not, I sand and repeat until it does, if you have the right type of wood, and pay attention to the grain orientation, you Do Not need chalk. That being said, I've not bought any commercially made boxes in years, can't say for them.
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need chalk
I disagree that you don't need chalk , sure a good box should play with little to no chalk. But in changing the grip of the paddle on the rails with the chalk you can achieve different tones and sounds of your boxes . With chalk you get the full potential of your call.. that's my opinion .
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need chalk
I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
X2 .. i so agree ... good point and post ..
Rain chalk works well!
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 07:34:42 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need chalk
I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
I make my own box calls, I don't sell, just for my own use. The only time I use chalk anymore is while tuning. I put some on the paddle, give a couple strokes to see that I'm hitting the Whole side rail, the chalk will show you. If not, I sand and repeat until it does, if you have the right type of wood, and pay attention to the grain orientation, you Do Not need chalk. That being said, I've not bought any commercially made boxes in years, can't say for them.
The only "commercially made" box I own is the Woodhaven Ninja hen I won here 2 years ago and it requires chalk. I would bet your calls degrade faster, I could be wrong but it just does not seem to make sense to me that they would not. That said I would not go on a forum and suggest to somebody not to use chalk, it could wind up they destroy a call they saved a long time to get because of that advise. Not trying to insult, but that is just my take on it.
Quote from: Greg Massey on April 17, 2020, 08:20:04 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need chalk
I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
X2 .. i so agree ... good point and post ..
Thank you Greg.
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 09:20:09 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 07:34:42 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need chalk
I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
I make my own box calls, I don't sell, just for my own use. The only time I use chalk anymore is while tuning. I put some on the paddle, give a couple strokes to see that I'm hitting the Whole side rail, the chalk will show you. If not, I sand and repeat until it does, if you have the right type of wood, and pay attention to the grain orientation, you Do Not need chalk. That being said, I've not bought any commercially made boxes in years, can't say for them.
The only "commercially made" box I own is the Woodhaven Ninja hen I won here 2 years ago and it requires chalk. I would bet your calls degrade faster, I could be wrong but it just does not seem to make sense to me that they would not. That said I would not go on a forum and suggest to somebody not to use chalk, it could wind up they destroy a call they saved a long time to get because of that advise. Not trying to insult, but that is just my take on it.
Quote from: Greg Massey on April 17, 2020, 08:20:04 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need chalk
I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
X2 .. i so agree ... good point and post ..
Thank you Greg.
Im not suggesting non chalk use to ruin someone's call, where on earth did u come up with that. A box call works on FRICTION, wood to wood, chalk only impedes that. You wouldn't chalk the end of a wooden sticker to play on a slate or glass call. Use all the chalk you want, I simply stated a fact. I definitely didnt intend my statement to ruin someone's call that's absurd . I've played box calls for years without chalk, they sound as good now as when made them
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 09:51:33 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 09:20:09 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 07:34:42 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need chalk
I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
I make my own box calls, I don't sell, just for my own use. The only time I use chalk anymore is while tuning. I put some on the paddle, give a couple strokes to see that I'm hitting the Whole side rail, the chalk will show you. If not, I sand and repeat until it does, if you have the right type of wood, and pay attention to the grain orientation, you Do Not need chalk. That being said, I've not bought any commercially made boxes in years, can't say for them.
The only "commercially made" box I own is the Woodhaven Ninja hen I won here 2 years ago and it requires chalk. I would bet your calls degrade faster, I could be wrong but it just does not seem to make sense to me that they would not. That said I would not go on a forum and suggest to somebody not to use chalk, it could wind up they destroy a call they saved a long time to get because of that advise. Not trying to insult, but that is just my take on it.
Quote from: Greg Massey on April 17, 2020, 08:20:04 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need chalk
I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
X2 .. i so agree ... good point and post ..
Thank you Greg.
Im not suggesting non chalk use to ruin someone's call, where on earth did u come up with that. A box call works on FRICTION, wood to wood, chalk only impedes that. You wouldn't chalk the end of a wooden sticker to play on a slate or glass call. Use all the chalk you want, I simply stated a fact. I definitely didnt intend my statement to ruin someone's call that's absurd . I've played box calls for years without chalk, they sound as good now as when made them
I never said you were, you need to reread what I typed.
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 09:54:03 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 09:51:33 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 09:20:09 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 07:34:42 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need chalk
I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
I make my own box calls, I don't sell, just for my own use. The only time I use chalk anymore is while tuning. I put some on the paddle, give a couple strokes to see that I'm hitting the Whole side rail, the chalk will show you. If not, I sand and repeat until it does, if you have the right type of wood, and pay attention to the grain orientation, you Do Not need chalk. That being said, I've not bought any commercially made boxes in years, can't say for them.
The only "commercially made" box I own is the Woodhaven Ninja hen I won here 2 years ago and it requires chalk. I would bet your calls degrade faster, I could be wrong but it just does not seem to make sense to me that they would not. That said I would not go on a forum and suggest to somebody not to use chalk, it could wind up they destroy a call they saved a long time to get because of that advise. Not trying to insult, but that is just my take on it.
Quote from: Greg Massey on April 17, 2020, 08:20:04 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need chalk
I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
X2 .. i so agree ... good point and post ..
Thank you Greg.
Im not suggesting non chalk use to ruin someone's call, where on earth did u come up with that. A box call works on FRICTION, wood to wood, chalk only impedes that. You wouldn't chalk the end of a wooden sticker to play on a slate or glass call. Use all the chalk you want, I simply stated a fact. I definitely didnt intend my statement to ruin someone's call that's absurd . I've played box calls for years without chalk, they sound as good now as when made them
I never said you were, you need to reread what I typed.
I guess that's why he makes his own and doesn't sell them .. LOL..
Quote from: Greg Massey on April 17, 2020, 10:30:40 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 09:54:03 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 09:51:33 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 09:20:09 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 07:34:42 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need chalk
I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
I make my own box calls, I don't sell, just for my own use. The only time I use chalk anymore is while tuning. I put some on the paddle, give a couple strokes to see that I'm hitting the Whole side rail, the chalk will show you. If not, I sand and repeat until it does, if you have the right type of wood, and pay attention to the grain orientation, you Do Not need chalk. That being said, I've not bought any commercially made boxes in years, can't say for them.
The only "commercially made" box I own is the Woodhaven Ninja hen I won here 2 years ago and it requires chalk. I would bet your calls degrade faster, I could be wrong but it just does not seem to make sense to me that they would not. That said I would not go on a forum and suggest to somebody not to use chalk, it could wind up they destroy a call they saved a long time to get because of that advise. Not trying to insult, but that is just my take on it.
Quote from: Greg Massey on April 17, 2020, 08:20:04 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need chalk
I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
X2 .. i so agree ... good point and post ..
Thank you Greg.
Im not suggesting non chalk use to ruin someone's call, where on earth did u come up with that. A box call works on FRICTION, wood to wood, chalk only impedes that. You wouldn't chalk the end of a wooden sticker to play on a slate or glass call. Use all the chalk you want, I simply stated a fact. I definitely didnt intend my statement to ruin someone's call that's absurd . I've played box calls for years without chalk, they sound as good now as when made them
I never said you were, you need to reread what I typed.
I guess that's why he makes his own and doesn't sell them .. LOL..
That's a pretty cheap shot Greg. I make them for my own use. I simply gave the OP a tip. Try it . But if it makes you two feel better about yourselves you guys know it all. By the way Greg , I can buy any box call i want, i get personal satisfaction making my own calls. If I played one for you , you probably wouldn't recognize it , because it sounds like the real thing. Lol.
I use Primos reddish box call chalk. I works well
Quote from: falltoms on April 18, 2020, 09:38:37 AM
Quote from: Greg Massey on April 17, 2020, 10:30:40 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 09:54:03 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 09:51:33 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 09:20:09 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 07:34:42 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need chalk
I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
I make my own box calls, I don't sell, just for my own use. The only time I use chalk anymore is while tuning. I put some on the paddle, give a couple strokes to see that I'm hitting the Whole side rail, the chalk will show you. If not, I sand and repeat until it does, if you have the right type of wood, and pay attention to the grain orientation, you Do Not need chalk. That being said, I've not bought any commercially made boxes in years, can't say for them.
The only "commercially made" box I own is the Woodhaven Ninja hen I won here 2 years ago and it requires chalk. I would bet your calls degrade faster, I could be wrong but it just does not seem to make sense to me that they would not. That said I would not go on a forum and suggest to somebody not to use chalk, it could wind up they destroy a call they saved a long time to get because of that advise. Not trying to insult, but that is just my take on it.
Quote from: Greg Massey on April 17, 2020, 08:20:04 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 17, 2020, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: falltoms on April 17, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
If a box call is properly tuned, you don't need chalk
I am not expert but I am not sure this makes any sense, it would seem no chalk would cause more friction to the point of deteriorating the rails and causing bad spots on the lid. I know there are calls made of stuff that does not need to be chalked, I am not sure that is wood though and do not believe all calls can be run without it.
X2 .. i so agree ... good point and post ..
Thank you Greg.
Im not suggesting non chalk use to ruin someone's call, where on earth did u come up with that. A box call works on FRICTION, wood to wood, chalk only impedes that. You wouldn't chalk the end of a wooden sticker to play on a slate or glass call. Use all the chalk you want, I simply stated a fact. I definitely didnt intend my statement to ruin someone's call that's absurd . I've played box calls for years without chalk, they sound as good now as when made them
I never said you were, you need to reread what I typed.
I guess that's why he makes his own and doesn't sell them .. LOL..
That's a pretty cheap shot Greg. I make them for my own use. I simply gave the OP a tip. Try it . But if it makes you two feel better about yourselves you guys know it all. By the way Greg , I can buy any box call i want, i get personal satisfaction making my own calls. If I played one for you , you probably wouldn't recognize it , because it sounds like the real thing. Lol.
No cheap shot , i'm glad you make your own. But i will still use chalk on mine ..