Ok guys I shoot the Win LB 3in #5's through my Remington 1187 SP 25 inch barrel with a .660 jellyhead maximum choke. I get good numbers.
Today I decide this same set up I'd shoot some cheap Remington shells (Nitro 3in #4) to see if they would be a fair follow up / back up shell. First shot at a lazered 35 yards I got 132 in the 10. Very impressed! Backed up to a lasered 41 yards and got 42 in the 10! A shell dropping 90 hits in 6 yards!! Not running them in my gun. Is that normal for one to drop that much
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Did it do this more than once? They can vary alot on occasion.
I only had 2 targets to shoot at today. Need more
Got the chance to shoot again. Got 54 in the 10 at 40. At 20 it's deadly. This load just falls apart bad after 30-35 yards
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Pic at 40.. 54 in the 10
I have never been able to get any of the Remington turkey shells to pattern in any of my shotguns except the old Remington hevi shot in the green and yellow box
And that's why I stick to longbeards but still shocked at the big drop off
.660 probably to tight for those 4s but with that said I nor anyone I know has had any good results from those shells.
Shot string is too tight with .660 and 4's... It's just taking shots farther than 35yards to show that the pattern is blown.
In my experience for every 10 yards on average you will drop some where around 100 pellets give or take. With lead and hevi shot.
Quote from: surehuntsalot on February 21, 2015, 06:52:04 PM
I have never been able to get any of the Remington turkey shells to pattern in any of my shotguns except the old Remington hevi shot in the green and yellow box
These are what I use in my 870 20 gauge,any other remington shells in the 20 fall out of useful range around 30 yards.I do carry some of the 20gauge Remington Premier 3" 1 1/4 oz #6 in my vest to use if I happen to set up in timber where shots will be 20 yards or less.pattern is a little more open and no use in wasting a hevi when plain lead 6's will work at very close range.Could never get the 12 Remington Nitros to shoot worth a hoot either in my 870 12.
I'm impressed with how well you are doing with Remington Nitro Shells. I have shot a great pattern with them at 20-25 yds and then at 35yd the turkey would be flying off. Killed all of of turkey's with the Remington Duplex 4x6 but was trying to get the turkey inside 30yds in those days.
Sounds right. They are about as bad as a turkey load can get especially when your shooting #4s.
I have a shell worse than that. I shoot a 10 ga H&R with 32 inch barrel and it will get 35-50 hits at 40 in the 10 with a Federal 2 0z #5 load. No way to explain it. Same choke gets 200 in the 10 at 40 with Fed HWT 7's.
Funny how that works! Is that 10 gauge a fixed full?
Quote from: deadbuck on February 23, 2015, 09:54:28 PM
I have a shell worse than that. I shoot a 10 ga H&R with 32 inch barrel and it will get 35-50 hits at 40 in the 10 with a Federal 2 0z #5 load. No way to explain it. Same choke gets 200 in the 10 at 40 with Fed HWT 7's.
Chuck I think this is you, its Tye from PA, Ordered the Fed HWs 6s and looking for the 7s, to run through the NEF 10 36 Barrel with Kicks GT .695. I used the Rem shells to dirty up my gun and choke mostly I had very little luck with them.
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Quote from: surehuntsalot on February 21, 2015, 06:52:04 PM
I have never been able to get any of the Remington turkey shells to pattern in any of my shotguns except the old Remington hevi shot in the green and yellow box
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Quote from: surehuntsalot on February 21, 2015, 06:52:04 PM
I have never been able to get any of the Remington turkey shells to pattern in any of my shotguns except the old Remington hevi shot in the green and yellow box
Quote from: Gobble! on February 22, 2015, 02:10:52 PM
Sounds right. They are about as bad as a turkey load can get especially when your shooting #4s.
Bingo. This shell is horrible.
Quote from: Gobble! on February 22, 2015, 02:10:52 PM
Sounds right. They are about as bad as a turkey load can get especially when your shooting #4s.
Uh, have you tried the Hornadys? They are brutally bad in my Super Mag.
When I first started turkey hunting I tried them because they were cheap, well they are ok if you limit shots at 30yds, but I had better patterns using AA 71/2 at 30. I guess if it's all you can find, they can get the job done, just find you're limit, and don't go past that and you'd be alright! The Long Beards just flat out work, and I hope they don't change them, well they did up the shot weight, but that didn't change much.
Never shot them heard too many bad things about them before I bought a box
Quote from: renegade19 on March 23, 2016, 06:53:15 PM
Quote from: Gobble! on February 22, 2015, 02:10:52 PM
Sounds right. They are about as bad as a turkey load can get especially when your shooting #4s.
Uh, have you tried the Hornadys? They are brutally bad in my Super Mag.
I used Remington nitros for years. killed my first 5 turkeys with them. they aren't the greatest.... as far as a cheap backup..id probably shoot Winchester double x which still puts up 150 in a 10 at 40 for me. but I always shoot 3 shots to a group and take the average before I condemn a shell
A friend brought over a 12"x12" paper with 236 hits on it at 32yds, Win 3" HV #6 shot.
"It's a 50yd gun" was his claim
I told him he would be surprised if he shot it at 40yds what his pattern would be. We went back and forth and he tacked up another 12"x12" sheet of paper and we ranged 41yds. He fired and when we got finished counting he had 85 total hits on that piece of paper.
In 8yds he dropped 151 hits.
That is why I start at 40yds and work backwards.