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Turkey Guns & Shooting => 16, 28 , and .410 Turkey Gun Forum => Topic started by: Henry347 on March 20, 2023, 12:08:03 PM

Title: New Toy Stevens 301 410
Post by: Henry347 on March 20, 2023, 12:08:03 PM
First time poster here on the forum but long time Turkey Hunter from East TN. I've always used a 12 gauge for hunting but decided to jump on the band wagon with the other 410 hunters. My gun I've used for the last few season is actually a 301 Stevens as well but in 12 gauge. It's paired with a Gobble Stopper Red Dot and Jellyhead Maximum. Have got a few birds with that setup shooting Long Beard XR's.

I ran across another 301 in bottom lands camo with the thumbhole in 410 and had to have it. I'm hoping it'll be in at my FFL in a week or so. I'm trying to get everything ordered and have it ready by the 15th when the season opens. Went with a AT3 RD-50 after reading some reviews on it.

Now my next hurdle is wether I should go ahead and order a different choke or try the factory one. I've read where some have had good success with the factory choke out to 40 yards and others the patterns isn't to good. The ammo I'll be using is the Federal TSS 9 shot. Found it for $30 a box at a local place and bought a couple boxes.

Looking for some input from other hunters shooting the Stevens in 410. Wether they are using the factory choke or went with a different one. The choke I'm looking at is the patternmaster code black if I decide to buy another.
Title: Re: New Toy Stevens 301 410
Post by: Bigfootwolff on March 20, 2023, 08:45:33 PM
Congratulations on your new 301 in ,410.  I got one earlier this year and had the same dilemma you are having regarding purchasing an aftermarket choke.  After watching several videos and reading some reviews, I decided to give the factory choke a try and instead spend the money on some good TSS loads.  I bought a box of Apex Tukey Ninja 9.5s and patterned the factory choke at 20 and 40 yards.  My 20 yard pattern is pretty tight, with not a lot of room for error.  My 40 yard pattern opened up some, but was still reasonably tight.  The 40 yard pattern was a good huntng pattern with no real voids.  I would definitely feel comfortable taking a turkey at 40 yards with that load and choke combination.  I have decided 40 yards will be my max distance when shooting a turkey with a .410, but the factory choke pattern is definitely good enough to kill at 45 yards.  I figure if I misjudge my distance by a few yards I'm still okay.  Definitely give the factory choke a shot, you may be pleasantly suprised.
Title: Re: New Toy Stevens 301 410
Post by: davisd9 on March 20, 2023, 09:41:32 PM
This is my son's 301 410 shooting Apex Ninja 9.5s with factory choke at 40 yards. I wanted him to have a bit of a forgiving pattern and this combo gives that. He has killed three turkeys with it.  Two at around 20 yards and another at 30. All dropped where they stood. I have it purposely low in case he shoots at head but the last one he aimed perfect so I may raise it a touch. Anyway, I have been impressed with the little gun and has done all we have asked of it. It does like a very clean barrel!

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Title: Re: New Toy Stevens 301 410
Post by: btomlin on March 20, 2023, 11:00:56 PM
My factory choke with 9.5s is nearly identical to davisd9 photo.  I think mine was 142 with a 13/16oz federal 9.5 load.


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Title: Re: New Toy Stevens 301 410
Post by: btodd00 on March 21, 2023, 02:08:29 PM
the 301 factory choke patterned better than most factory chokes ive had on other guns. From what I found out it is made by Carlson, i wanted the same brand to try in my mossberg 500 410 because the factory choke that came with it was not near as impressive
Title: Re: New Toy Stevens 301 410
Post by: Henry347 on March 31, 2023, 10:32:30 AM
I got a chance to get out and sight the Stevens in yesterday, I went ahead and ordered a Patternmaster Code Black to try against the Factory Choke. The Patternmaster performed slightly better with the Federal #9 but 35 yards will be my max with both setups. Maybe next season I'll try some of the other TSS loads from Apex or Verdict. At 22 yards the Federal put 178 in the 10 with Factory Choke and the Patternmaster put 229. Moved out to 40 yards and Factory Choke put 75 in the 10 and Patternmaster did 94. The Patternmaster shot slightly right with the zero for the factory choke.


Title: Re: New Toy Stevens 301 410
Post by: Henry347 on March 31, 2023, 10:33:37 AM
Factory Choke
Title: Re: New Toy Stevens 301 410
Post by: krm944 on April 01, 2023, 06:50:20 AM
Quote from: btodd00 on March 21, 2023, 02:08:29 PM
the 301 factory choke patterned better than most factory chokes ive had on other guns. From what I found out it is made by Carlson, i wanted the same brand to try in my mossberg 500 410 because the factory choke that came with it was not near as impressive

I have never heard this. Very good info. ????
Title: Re: New Toy Stevens 301 410
Post by: g8rvet on April 01, 2023, 12:24:00 PM
When you can, get the Apex Ninja 9.5.  Factory choke and those pair very nicely and make it truly a 40 yard gun.  I bought a box of the Federals as well and got similar results.  The Ninja's change the game.
Title: Re: New Toy Stevens 301 410
Post by: Muzzy61 on April 04, 2023, 12:45:35 PM
Mine patterned good with the federals and factory choke. Three dead turkeys at 28, 30,and 35 yards.
Title: Re: New Toy Stevens 301 410
Post by: Vintage on April 04, 2023, 12:58:14 PM
Factory choke works great for me.
Title: Re: New Toy Stevens 301 410
Post by: Henry347 on April 11, 2023, 03:45:05 PM
I got some Salt Creek Customs to try in the Stevens and it performed better than the Federal. This go around the factory choke out performed the Patternmaster.  Only shot them both at 40 and the Salt Creek put 109 in the 10 with the Patternmaster where with the Factory Choke it put 130. Just going to hunt with the Salt Creek #10's and factory choke this season. The Apex is the next ones on my list to try out.
Title: Re: New Toy Stevens 301 410
Post by: Henry347 on April 11, 2023, 03:48:20 PM
Factory Choke W/ Salt Creek #10s
Title: Re: New Toy Stevens 301 410
Post by: Henry347 on April 11, 2023, 03:49:16 PM
Patternmaster W/Salt Creek #10
Title: Re: New Toy Stevens 301 410
Post by: Henry347 on April 20, 2023, 10:38:40 PM
Got to test the little 410 out yesterday morning on this East TN public land bird. Closest I could get them in was 45yds but those Salt Creek #10's did the job.
Title: Re: New Toy Stevens 301 410
Post by: Henry347 on May 02, 2023, 04:57:36 PM
Ordered some of the Apex Turkey Ninjas last week and was sitting on the porch when I got home earlier. Fired off a couple shots at 31yds using the factory choke and the Patternmaster. Wind is cranking pretty good so I'll wait till a day its calm before I shoot a couple targets at 40. Didn't know the Apex came in 10 round boxes so I feel a little better about spending $71 on it.

The factory choke put 196 in the 10 and the Patternmaster did 205 but that core pattern with the factory choke is impressive. I don't know if the wind pushed the shot left or what because both patterns is a hair left. I brought it a few clicks right and will update with 40 yard results when I can.

Factory Choke

Title: Re: New Toy Stevens 301 410
Post by: Henry347 on May 02, 2023, 04:58:14 PM
Patternmaster