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Turkey Guns & Shooting => Turkey Guns => Topic started by: spursandbeards on April 21, 2011, 08:47:47 PM

Title: Sumtoy chokes are the best !
Post by: spursandbeards on April 21, 2011, 08:47:47 PM
william  of sumtoy costoms chokes built me  one of his chokes . I was only able to put maybe if i was lucky 14 pellets in the target at 40 yards but with his choke  i was able to put 223 pellets in the 10 inch circle at 40 yards ,free handed with overcast skies


                                                                                                                  thank ya William
                                                                                                                sumtoy chokes are the best i have shot yet..... get choked .                                               
Title: Re: Sumtoy chokes are the best !
Post by: spursandbeards on April 21, 2011, 09:07:30 PM
I was shooting rem 870 21inch barrel hev13#7 the choke is 658 sumtoy
Title: Re: Sumtoy chokes are the best !
Post by: SKFOOTER on April 21, 2011, 10:40:27 PM
Evidently you haven't patterned that load thru a Jellyhead .660???  If you had, your 10 inch pattern would be approaching 300. :z-guntootsmiley:   And no disrepect to Sumtoy chokes.
Title: Re: Sumtoy chokes are the best !
Post by: K9-Doc on April 22, 2011, 12:12:37 AM
Come on SKFOOTER!  223 is respectable in a 3" 2oz.load.
That was one shot, and we don't even know the. lot#.
:happy0064:   Shoot a gobbler with that setup.  That will do fine!
Title: Re: Sumtoy chokes are the best !
Post by: Gobble! on April 22, 2011, 08:06:41 AM
Quote from: SKFOOTER on April 21, 2011, 10:40:27 PM
Evidently you haven't patterned that load thru a Jellyhead .660???  If you had, your 10 inch pattern would be approaching 300. :z-guntootsmiley:   And no disrepect to Sumtoy chokes.

even if it was 3.5" it would depend on the lot number. Your not going to get 300 with the 300488s or the 300487s

Quote from: spursandbeards on April 21, 2011, 08:47:47 PM
william  of sumtoy costoms chokes built me  one of his chokes . I was only able to put maybe if i was lucky 14 pellets in the target at 40 yards but with his choke  i was able to put 223 pellets in the 10 inch circle at 40 yards ,free handed with overcast skies


                                                                                                                  thank ya William
                                                                                                                sumtoy chokes are the best i have shot yet..... get choked .                                               

that will do the job. nice pattern!!
Title: Re: Sumtoy chokes are the best !
Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on April 22, 2011, 08:43:57 AM
Anything over 150 with any setup is lights out in the woods.  There is a huge numbers game going on right now. 

10" circle numbers are great, but I don't necessarily call that a great pattern, by itself.  There's more to a pattern, than a 10" circle.  However, some of these guys have a great 20" pattern, AND a great 10" circle.  We need to figure out and emulate what they're doing.

Congrats on breaking 200 at 40. :z-winnersmiley:
Title: Re: Sumtoy chokes are the best !
Post by: bowhunter84 on April 22, 2011, 08:53:14 AM
that pattern will kill no doubt :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Sumtoy chokes are the best !
Post by: SumToy on April 22, 2011, 08:54:45 AM
Quote from: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on April 22, 2011, 08:43:57 AM
Anything over 150 with any setup is lights out in the woods.  There is a huge numbers game going on right now.  

10" circle numbers are great, but I don't necessarily call that a great pattern, by itself.  There's more to a pattern, than a 10" circle.  However, some of these guys have a great 20" pattern, AND a great 10" circle.  We need to figure out and emulate what they're doing.

Congrats on breaking 200 at 40. :z-winnersmiley:

That is true.  This is a hunting gun.  If you look at the pattern it will have some room for the guy that is nervous.   This 10 inch deal is good to sale chokes but bad for the hunter I think.   I look at the 10 inch with 300 plus at 40 and think that is a target gun 30 yards and in.    I can not see that you need it you just need a good even pattern.  How Dead is Dead.  
Title: Re: Sumtoy chokes are the best !
Post by: pitjeep on April 22, 2011, 09:24:50 AM
i want to see one of the 300 hit targets shot at 30-33 yards.
Title: Re: Sumtoy chokes are the best !
Post by: SumToy on April 22, 2011, 09:43:01 AM
Pitjeep look down the list a few weeks back. I put one up that was 3-2-7. It was 411 that we could count.  He shot 3 times at same bird 1st day. That bird has not stop running.  LoL
Title: Re: Sumtoy chokes are the best !
Post by: Gobble! on April 22, 2011, 10:32:37 AM
Quote from: pitjeep on April 22, 2011, 09:24:50 AM
i want to see one of the 300 hit targets shot at 30-33 yards.

This was at 20 yards. This years 3.5" Hevi13 #7s. Did 225 at 40 yards.

(http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff333/ktgjsm1/7s_20yards_4-3-11.jpg)
Title: Re: Sumtoy chokes are the best !
Post by: clg9mm on April 22, 2011, 11:43:40 AM
14 pellets to over 200?

I guess there was something really wrong with your ammo choke gun combo prior to the sumtoy choke. What was your prior set up? I'm sure the sumtoy choke is nice but something is odd here.
Title: Re: Sumtoy chokes are the best !
Post by: SumToy on April 22, 2011, 12:37:50 PM
I did not see the gun shoot. I will say it was a 21 inch barrel with a ______ choke in it.  JD had been shooting federal FCW shells.  He is a good youth huntter that was looking for a hunting pattern not a numbers gun.  Now the numbers his little 21 inch barrel with 3 inch shell put up is something he can have fun with.
Title: Re: Sumtoy chokes are the best !
Post by: spursandbeards on April 22, 2011, 02:05:29 PM
this is my son post and gun and pattern he was shooting #5 and #4 feds and win ammo the # he is talking about is true they were not good but he killed brids with it its not about # for him its a good pattern and thats what hes got sumtoy (William) told me what to get i did and thats the pattern we got his gun is stock no work has been done on it you cant wipe the smile off his face withtthis pattern and thats all that matters he hunts with that gun not target shoots thinks for all the comm. thinks WILLIAM for the time spent on wednesday with J.d. and myself   SUMTOY COUSTOM GET CHOKED                                                   
Title: Re: Sumtoy chokes are the best !
Post by: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on April 22, 2011, 02:12:00 PM
I think he meant 14 pellets in the head and neck of a turkey target.
Title: Re: Sumtoy chokes are the best !
Post by: goblr77 on April 22, 2011, 02:33:52 PM
Quote from: 3" 870 Shell Shucker on April 22, 2011, 02:12:00 PM
I think he meant 14 pellets in the head and neck of a turkey target.


That's the way I took it as well.
Title: Re: Sumtoy chokes are the best !
Post by: spursandbeards on April 22, 2011, 02:51:23 PM
Yes, that is exactly what he meant. He is so happy with this gun now that he has been in a blind all day today hopeing for a shot with this gun and choke. He has been in the blind all day in the heat because he has confidence in his rig now. He passed on a good gobbler on Sat. and Sun. because he didn't have confidence in his gun. Thanks, Glenn :thanks: