I am working I finishing this wingbone so I have it for the May 1 opener here in NY and was wondering if I have removed enough of the webbing to get it to sound decent? Also picture of the file set I bought to work on this.
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Should work just fine.
Quote from: larry9988 on April 19, 2020, 02:24:05 PM
Should work just fine.
Thanks, tomorrow they go in the peroxide then.
It takes time, but I like them a lot smoother than that. I used the round rasp for most of it.
Quote from: Rapscallion Vermilion on April 19, 2020, 04:21:19 PM
It takes time, but I like them a lot smoother than that. I used the round rasp for most of it.
I have no problem taking more off if need be, never done this before and just want to get it right. The only real round one I have is the one shown in far right of picture of kit, there is a smaller one but it is not really completely round, it is one I have been using.
The shell or outside of the bone is not uniform in thickness, there will be areas thinner than others.
these areas can get too thin very quickly when removing the webbing,
you have a ways to go before that happens but as you clean out the webbing hold it up to a strong light every so often and look from the inside out for thin spots
Quote from: crow on April 19, 2020, 05:17:00 PM
The shell or outside of the bone is not uniform in thickness, there will be areas thinner than others.
these areas can get too thin very quickly when removing the webbing,
you have a ways to go before that happens but as you clean out the webbing hold it up to a strong light every so often and look from the inside out for thin spots
Thank you for that advise, I wish I had seen it sooner, I got a bit thinner than I would have liked in one part and it caused a chip. I will post pictures in a second comment. I do not think I am going to remove anymore.
I think I am done removing, I got a bit thinner than I would have liked in one part and it caused a chip before I realized it as can be seen in one of the pictures. I would like to get some of that off on the inside right and left edges but the files just can seem to do it because of the curve the webbing is on.
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Photo with chip.
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Oh the one edge has not been done much because there is already a large chip and hairline crack there so I did not want to thin that part out to much. Here is a picture of that.
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I take that back about the hairline crack, turns out looking at the picture that it is just a piece of dog hair that got in the picture.
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I use a foredom with a carbide round bit
Cleans it up a lot quicker than files.
Use it to fit all pieces together too
Also to remove excess epoxy
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Quote from: LabsRUsII on April 19, 2020, 06:28:40 PM
I use a foredom with a carbide round bit
Cleans it up a lot quicker than files.
Use it to fit all pieces together too
Also to remove excess epoxy
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Forgive the question but I am pretty useless with tools, what is a foredom, is that kinda like a Dremel tool? I looked at those but just could not justify the price to make a single call. I do appreciate the help though. This is my list for things I would like to get for building, I still want to do some more kits and stuff so that is why some of the stuff is there. https://smile.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/26FKYZPIR5650?&sort=default
https://www.foredom.net/product-category/flex-shaft-tools/flex-shaft-motors-speed-controls/
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Quote from: LabsRUsII on April 19, 2020, 06:38:10 PM
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Oh okay, to be honest that is much more than I can afford and I am not sure the electric in this house would handle that anyway, I can't run the AC and toaster at the same time without blowing a fuse.
For "sandpaper" i use abranet
I buy it by the yard from kmottsknives .com
Call or email john and ask him to make you an assortment 120,180,240,320,400,600,800
Say a foot of each
He also has the best ca and epoxy.
Foredoms too but over $300
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Quote from: LabsRUsII on April 19, 2020, 06:43:22 PM
For "sandpaper" i use abranet
I buy it by the yard from kmottsknives .com
Call or email john and ask him to make you an assortment 120,180,240,320,400,600,800
Say a foot of each
He also has the best ca and epoxy.
Foredoms too but over $300
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I will keep the information but for right now it is not financially feasible, would not be til June or July at least. I really enjoyed making the pot call I made and am enjoying this as well. I had a kit to make a box call but donated it to help raise money for a kid that lost his leg to cancer, I will buy that kit again next month and will have it by the middle of the season to use.
You did get really thin on that one side of the bone for sure .. good luck with it..
Quote from: Greg Massey on April 19, 2020, 09:02:32 PM
You did get really thin on that one side of the bone for sure .. good luck with it..
Thanks.
if this was me, I would want to get rid of those chips, nicks and notches, they eventually are going to snag on something and split your call, if this was a horse hoof I would say you have work to do before nailing on a shoe
unless you are tuning this as a gobbler call or just want a call with some character in it.
look at your bottom pic, I would make an angled cut to get rid of the notches. and this will also cut out some of your thin spots which could be a later problem
start at the top, just skimming the top and angle to the bottom, taking off just enough to get behind the "U" notch. before you do it, hold a piece of paper up to your picture to get an idea of the angle and what it will look like
without a Dremel, the finest tooth hacksaw will make a nicer cut, then bevel the edge slightly with a fine file to prevent more nicks,
without a Dremel and for your first one, I would probably leave the remaining webbing
Quote from: crow on April 19, 2020, 10:27:50 PM
if this was me, I would want to get rid of those chips, nicks and notches, they eventually are going to snag on something and split your call, if this was a horse hoof I would say you have work to do before nailing on a shoe
unless you are tuning this as a gobbler call or just want a call with some character in it.
look at your bottom pic, I would make an angled cut to get rid of the notches. and this will also cut out some of your thin spots which could be a later problem
start at the top, just skimming the top and angle to the bottom, taking off just enough to get behind the "U" notch. before you do it, hold a piece of paper up to your picture to get an idea of the angle and what it will look like
without a Dremel, the finest tooth hacksaw will make a nicer cut, then bevel the edge slightly with a fine file to prevent more nicks,
without a Dremel and for your first one, I would probably leave the remaining webbing
Getting ready to head to bed so this reply will be short, I apologize for that. I want to keep as much on it as possible as I intend to get it painted. I will take it out this year as is and then send off to be painted and it will then be a memory piece. I did buy a coping saw (Hope I spelled that right) for making the cuts to make the pieces fit together. I have to head out, I have to be up at 5 in the morning. Make any reply and I will comment back when I get home. Thanks.
Sounds like a lot of work. Hope it turns out well for you and you hammer a Big Gobbler using it.
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Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on April 20, 2020, 08:12:45 AM
Sounds like a lot of work. Hope it turns out well for you and you hammer a Big Gobbler using it.
Thanks, I hope so as well! :)
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Thanks bud, I will not be able to order that before next month but if I get another this year I will have it to use then. I could wait to put it together, just took it out of the peroxide though after 8 hours. For some reason one of them did not turn out very white.
Ieave mine in a min of 48 hrs, is it yellow?
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Quote from: LabsRUsII on April 20, 2020, 01:18:38 PM
Ieave mine in a min of 48 hrs, is it yellow?
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Yes, give me a minute I will post a picture.
Did u wash off w water and set in sun to dry?
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Quote from: LabsRUsII on April 20, 2020, 01:26:41 PM
Did u wash off w water and set in sun to dry?
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Well when I went back to look they all seem to be yellowed so I put them back in the peroxide. I did not know about putting them in the sun and was going to rinse them off but now I am just going to leave them in the peroxide for another 40 hours I guess. I thought I had heard 8 hours, may well be I was told 48
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How long after harvesting did u clean the wing bones
Did you blow the marrow out before boiling them in salt water?
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Quote from: LabsRUsII on April 20, 2020, 01:33:34 PM
How long after harvesting did u clean the wing bones
Did you blow the marrow out before boiling them in salt water?
It did take me a few days to clean the bones, they were kept in the refrigerator though. I did get the marrow out, before boiling in the 20 mule borax and dawn 3 separate times. I was following this video to do it as well as getting advise here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWmd8CT7oD0
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You got to get all that grease out of there. Doesn't look like you got all the marrow out. Use some dawn in your water or Arm and Hammer washing powder.
What kind of peroxide are you using? You want 40 strength.
Quote from: EZ on April 20, 2020, 07:55:09 PM
You got to get all that grease out of there. Doesn't look like you got all the marrow out. Use some dawn in your water or Arm and Hammer washing powder.
What kind of peroxide are you using? You want 40 strength.
I did not see any left in there, scrubbed through it several times with pipe cleaners and wire pipe cleaners and then decided to boil the the 20 mule Borax and Dawn again. They have been boiled that way at least 6 hours, scrubbed inside as described twice and I used the 40 volume stuff I had asked you about in one of our messages. It is soaking in it again now. Sorry if that comes off wrong, was just trying to say what I had already done and what I had used and am using. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B004OKA0EI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have my wingbone all bleached out and ready to cut, I am just very nervous and I guess intimidated to do it.
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