Do you use a call that produces gobble and does it work? If so, any special way you use it?
Tried one back in the 90's I was not impressed.
I have a Morgan tube call with me on every hunt that can be used for calling or locating. Whether I use it or not is situational.
Have with success on private land. No way on public, just not comfortable using one there.....
I used it a bunch of times on private land and came home successful. I highly recommend it.
I'm going to answer your question by saying I don't typically use one. It can work but be dangerous even on private land. Most of us understand trespassing.
Calls I much prefer are gobbler, jake yelps, or clucks. Turkey can certainly tell the difference the beginner to many past that stage can't hear a difference. The other sound I use is fight rattles/fight purrs. Both gobbler sounds work as well or better and are safer.
I'll give some easy examples of use.
Few years ago I was going to roost birds and watched them about to fly up. This longbeard had his flock. Three other longbeards came into field. The flock bird left his ladies beeline to the 3 and started bullying.
Next morning first thing I see is the longbeards. They wouldn't come and I had a young lady with me I was calling for. Heard her deflate as she almost had a chance. Next the flock came but about 60 yards going away. They'd not even look. I gobbler yelped at em. The bird turned, left the ladies and came to whoop someone. The girl missed 3 times at 20 yards. Read the play right? It's important for any calling. Think a gobble call woulda done better?
Last year a buddy of mine was texting saying the bird he was working sounded almost angry. Idk if some could decipher gobbles but to me at times they have that dominant sound, or at times questioning "where are you" sound to them., we change the message we are or aren't sending to them. Anyhow he said bird sounded aggravated and wasn't coming. I mentioned he should try rattling at em. Bird went ballistic he told me and within a very short spell was dead.
Anytime you rattle you'll get about instant feedback if it's working. Birds double triple gobble and about run in. I could go on for both calls but the most fun you'll have calling imo is the rattle response. Never seen em act like that with gobbles
Do I use gobble sounds. No. Gobbler sounds yes.
Quote from: Bowguy on November 04, 2023, 05:01:58 AM
I'm going to answer your question by saying I don't typically use one. It can work but be dangerous even on private land. Most of us understand trespassing.
Calls I much prefer are gobbler, jake yelps, or clucks. Turkey can certainly tell the difference the beginner to many past that stage can't hear a difference. The other sound I use is fight rattles/fight purrs. Both gobbler sounds work as well or better and are safer.
I'll give some easy examples of use.
Few years ago I was going to roost birds and watched them about to fly up. This longbeard had his flock. Three other longbeards came into field. The flock bird left his ladies beeline to the 3 and started bullying.
Next morning first thing I see is the longbeards. They wouldn't come and I had a young lady with me I was calling for. Heard her deflate as she almost had a chance. Next the flock came but about 60 yards going away. They'd not even look. I gobbler yelped at em. The bird turned, left the ladies and came to whoop someone. The girl missed 3 times at 20 yards. Read the play right? It's important for any calling. Think a gobble call woulda done better?
Last year a buddy of mine was texting saying the bird he was working sounded almost angry. Idk if some could decipher gobbles but to me at times they have that dominant sound, or at times questioning "where are you" sound to them., we change the message we are or aren't sending to them. Anyhow he said bird sounded aggravated and wasn't coming. I mentioned he should try rattling at em. Bird went ballistic he told me and within a very short spell was dead.
Anytime you rattle you'll get about instant feedback if it's working. Birds double triple gobble and about run in. I could go on for both calls but the most fun you'll have calling imo is the rattle response. Never seen em act like that with gobbles
Do I use gobble sounds. No. Gobbler sounds yes.
Thanks for your comment, i like your idea. Makes me want to try it on birds who are not very interested in coming in... We'll see next spring if I can get them crazy with these sounds...
Roger Parks sells a gobbler pot. Imo you want to practice it. Gotta get the broken jake sequence for instance in your head. Also need to make a sound chamber as there is none and run more towards pot center. Roger sends or used to a cd explaining this.
Quote from: YoungGobbler on October 31, 2023, 09:45:52 PM
Do you use a call that produces gobble and does it work? If so, any special way you use it?
I use a tube call for gobbling both fall and spring, it's effective. To my ear the tube call makes the most realistic gobble. There are a couple good youtube videos on how to do it, one by Kenny Morgan, another by Joe Slaten, there's more go in this forums tube call section.
Gobbler/Jake yelps, are also very effective and worth learning, nothing works all the time, the more tools in your bag the better
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I use an old Lynch World Champion box call that is my first call....bought back in the early 90's. Take the call and turn it upside down....shake it and the handle will make the gobble call. Called old bird in last year using it. The best luck I have using it is to do a series of soft clucks/purrs followed by the gobble call. May take several times of doing this....clucks/purrs followed by gobble. Then once you have done this sequence few times.....pause for a while then just do the clucks followed by the purrs.....no more gobbles. The gobbler thinks the hen is alone now and he will come in looking for that lonesome hen. Killed several birds doing this.
Rarely, But I do make other gobbler sounds, I like some gobbler fights, fighting purrs, wings and making some noise, then there are the jake yaulks, but sometimes as a last-ditch effort when I have done everything else, I'll gobble. And like any other call sometimes it helps and sometimes it hurts, all depends on the day and the bird you're working. When I used to, I liked my Red Wolfe Gobbler Shaker, but anymore I just gobble with my diaphragm call.
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Quote from: MK M GOBL on January 08, 2024, 12:37:05 AM
Rarely, But I do make other gobbler sounds, I like some gobbler fights, fighting purrs, wings and making some noise, then there are the jake yaulks, but sometimes as a last-ditch effort when I have done everything else, I'll gobble. And like any other call sometimes it helps and sometimes it hurts, all depends on the day and the bird you're working. When I used to, I liked my Red Wolfe Gobbler Shaker, but anymore I just gobble with my diaphragm call.
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I'm with you on the fighting purr! It can be deadly in the right situation for sure.....
Very interested in trying some fightings sounds next spring !!
I use one... But not (generally) to call in birds...
*Occasionally can be used to entice a henned up tom to defend his territory, but not often.
*Can be used as a locator.
*Probably best used to "increase the testosterone" level of a bird.
Having the opportunity to watch birds from a distance as I call... I have noted, that very often a bird will go into strut (often silently) after hearing a gobble, or maybe a feeding bird's head comes up...
I probably most often use a gobble call to prime the breeding engine of a bird on a quiet morning. Maybe give a series of gobbles, pause, followed by whatever hen series I prefer...
Yes, box call and Roger Parks gobbler pot call ... Jake / Gobbler yelps
I don't carry a special gobble call, but in the right situation will definitely gobble on a box call.
Illinois allows a hunter to fill three permits with gobblers during the five short spring seasons. Typically, I use the gobble call to take at least one and sometimes two while hunting on private ground. I hunt with either a full strut or jake with a couple of hen decoys. During the early seasons, the response to my gobbles is often one or more gobblers coming in to establish dominance. My gobbles represent a newcomer and the resident gobblers come in to challenge the newcomer, very often attacking my gobbler decoy. In the late seasons when many hens are on the nest and gobbler dominance has been well-established, I often take my largest gobbler of the season when only the most dominate bird is still looking for willing hens. Typically, my hen yelps followed by an occasional gobble will entice the real gobbler to come on in after he has tried unsuccessfully to lure the new-to-him hen (me) away from the newcomer gobbler. Sometimes I double gobbler back at his response, trying to challenge him and get him worked up. At some point, often after a couple of hours, the real bird will decide to challenge the newcomer, generally only gobbling once or twice as he comes in, running up to the decoys in a fighting demeanor. Encounters of this kind require patience but are very exciting as the end results often develop rapidly.
Quote from: TRG3 on March 08, 2024, 07:12:04 AM
Illinois allows a hunter to fill three permits with gobblers during the five short spring seasons. Typically, I use the gobble call to take at least one and sometimes two while hunting on private ground. I hunt with either a full strut or jake with a couple of hen decoys. During the early seasons, the response to my gobbles is often one or more gobblers coming in to establish dominance. My gobbles represent a newcomer and the resident gobblers come in to challenge the newcomer, very often attacking my gobbler decoy. In the late seasons when many hens are on the nest and gobbler dominance has been well-established, I often take my largest gobbler of the season when only the most dominate bird is still looking for willing hens. Typically, my hen yelps followed by an occasional gobble will entice the real gobbler to come on in after he has tried unsuccessfully to lure the new-to-him hen (me) away from the newcomer gobbler. Sometimes I double gobbler back at his response, trying to challenge him and get him worked up. At some point, often after a couple of hours, the real bird will decide to challenge the newcomer, generally only gobbling once or twice as he comes in, running up to the decoys in a fighting demeanor. Encounters of this kind require patience but are very exciting as the end results often develop rapidly.
Thanks for your answer!
I experienced something like that last season. There was me with hen calls, a gobbler, and other hunter set up with hen calls and gobbler calls... The gobbler went right away to the other hunter's set-up... It didn't ended with a kill, but I could understand what triggered this gobbler.
Yes. Gobbler and jake yelps on a pot call. I can produce a passable gobble on a diaphragm.
I've watched most of the videos Matt Dale has produced regarding calling turkeys. In one of them, he mentioned one of the older box calls that was labeled "gobbler" on one side and "hen" on the other. Digging through my many calls, I found one by H.S. Strut labeled "Field Champion" with the gobbler side producing lower yelps than the hen side. I plan to use this box call when our first season comes in on April 8th, the same day that an eclipse that's scheduled to pass directly over my area of Southern Illinois. To me, trying new things is a large part of the excitement of turkey hunting.
Use one on private occasionally. Never on public. Seems to intimate some.
Hey @ bowguy, forgive my ignorance but what is rattling mean in the turkey woods? That's a term I only hear during the rut
I have found the gobbler cluck to work well at times. Nothing fancy but effective. The Roger Parks call is the easiest I have found. I have a video of him demonstrating the call. I have sent it to many people on OG and will be glad to send it to you if you PM me a cell phone for text or email.