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Point of impact

Started by nbkillr, April 19, 2011, 03:12:40 PM

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jfair

Quote from: Number17 on April 19, 2011, 09:37:09 PM
As the choke threads in the barrel it may have a slight "cam" to it instead of threading dead straight.  Thread it hand tight, and it may shoot dead low.  Give it 1/8th turn and it may shoot low right.

Them dag on Jakes at the Girlscout Camp aint gonna care one way or the other!

Understand.  I would think that with how fine the threads are and how deep they go into the barrel, this would be minimal.  Smallest change here would have a large affect down range, so it makes sense.  Why would different shells move POI left or right?  I can see the wad affecting flight but wouldn't this be random?  Thanks for the help.

nbkillr

Quote from: Spring_Woods on April 19, 2011, 07:39:03 PM
Quote from: nbkillr on April 19, 2011, 03:12:40 PM
Has anyone experienced where different chokes does not hit where you aim and still using the same load and everything?  I used the same constriction (.660) choke but different brands and found that they aren't hitting where I aim.   

How far is it off at what yardage?

From where I was aiming to the center of impact was 12" low and 2" to the right at 20 yards. 

drenalinld

jfair - with rifles it is barrel harmonics, the barrel is oscillating and timing can result in great POI changes. I would think this can be a factor for shotguns as well?

jfair

Quote from: drenalinld on April 20, 2011, 12:16:58 PM
jfair - with rifles it is barrel harmonics, the barrel is oscillating and timing can result in great POI changes. I would think this can be a factor for shotguns as well?

Ok, I can see that.  I tend to analyze things too much and want to know why.  Sometimes "it is what it is", I guess.  Thanks for answering.

scastle

can you change poi without going to a gunsmith or going through a bunch of choke tubes?

new2turkey

Quote from: scastle on April 20, 2011, 08:04:08 PM
can you change poi without going to a gunsmith or going through a bunch of choke tubes?

It'd be easier to just change POA...

Reloader

Quote from: scastle on April 20, 2011, 08:04:08 PM
can you change poi without going to a gunsmith or going through a bunch of choke tubes?

You can. It involves two trees close together and it usually takes a few cold beverages to gather the courage.  Notice I said few as too many can lead to a new and very expensive cheater pipe.

new2turkey

Quote from: Reloader on April 21, 2011, 11:59:19 AM
Quote from: scastle on April 20, 2011, 08:04:08 PM
can you change poi without going to a gunsmith or going through a bunch of choke tubes?

You can. It involves two trees close together and it usually takes a few cold beverages to gather the courage.  Notice I said few as too many can lead to a new and very expensive cheater pipe.


Lol, I wasn't even about to suggest this.... I have heard of it used on the NEF singles though.

jebs chokes

slikeyboyboo you can change POI by cutting .002/.003/.004 shim stock wrap the one that best fits your gun choke cobo this is why I started building chokes to start whit  where the right haned thread torqes down thats where it pulles the choke tube to. turkeyhunter

3" 870 Shell Shucker

#24
My 870 and BPS both shoot 3"+ high of POA at 35 Yards.  I just aim a little low.

I have an NEF Pardner 12 Gauge Modified that originally shot 1 Foot Low, and 1 Foot to the Left at 25 Yards.  I bent the barrel to be dead on at 25 Yards.  It looks funny, but now it shoots straight and it throws a nice pattern with HB or HV Lead.  It's my "Yard" Gun.

drenalinld

I have a NEF single with a special order 3.5" turkey barrel and a Kicks choke. It shoots about a foot low at 40 yards. I built up some camo tape at the back of the barrel and corrected the POA/POI difference.