Ok if you want a great call use .003 green latex as the top reed and .003 grey as the bottom reed. Make it a setback style with a batwing cut with only about 1/16 of an inch overlap of the two pieces of latex. A great call for cluckin n purring with nice high clear raspy yelps. Stretch this call on a press to .92 and when doing back tension make sure you make a smilly face. Oh yea with a hand jig you stretch the whole piece of latex at one time, with a press you only sretch the top half of the latex. I have tried both. I prefer a press. And there is a big difference on how much you stretch with a jig versus a press.